agree. except it is OP with splash damage, what do you think?

I think a bit of a map redesign and the splash damage is a non issue.

Sorry i dident read the Codex Astarties so i have no respec for nonfactors :). Im sure it talks about forge gunning in there somewere. prolly spells it wrong too

if the maps were redesigned to have no points to objective camp with forge splash than yeah. itd be okay with retaining splash

that was possibly the worst troll ive ever seen.... i dont even want to read your next comment x) players use it for camping because it has a splash. you would know

Yup. 2 days ago, some some broski with a 1000 HP+ Cal logi on a roof with flux and assault MD.
Annoying as freakn hell.

Sorry i dident read the Codex Astarties so i have no respec for nonfactors :). Im sure it talks about forge gunning in there somewere. prolly spells it wrong too

I don't camp objectives because I'm not a scrub or a coward. So, no, I actually wouldn't know.

Like I said before, it's your fault for sticking around to get killed by FG splash damage. Nobody forced you to sit there for 6 seconds while a tower FG sniper went to work on you.

WHOLLY HELL 11 deaths?? lol damn you really do need that splash on the forge, damn yo your right i wont argue with your claims on this thread anymore, ill mail you another crutch. oh and hey... *smirk* If you ever take Rampage seriously you have promblems hes the biggest joker in AE. Wouldve been seconded if you joined, this thread with proof! Btw, join our public chat wel do some FW q sync with me in it. Hopefully rampage is on at the time so he can re exteend the offer again

Exmaple and Jaraiya, you are both good players. Please stop the epeen waving -- it's not necessary and only detracts from the productive conversation we should be having. Thanks for your consideration...Lead

ugh now do i have to put im my past reply? Why would you even bring this back up it would just make a never ending loop of incompetence once again stemping from the ultramarines from 40k all the way to my thread

I actually wasn't using a FG in that game, I was using an HMG.

Trust me, he wasn't joking. Much as you would love to think there aren't good players in other Corps it just isn't the case.

Ultramarines took the top 6 in that game, probably would have one it like I said, if we would have had a full team on.

Keep thinking you safe and sound up there though

lol i tried. Tried to get him to admit it doesent need the splash to do its job, he actually admits that it doesent need it to kill infaintry or tanks, but he doesent admit that im right.... kinda weird.

ugh now do i have to put im my past reply? Why would you even bring this back up it would just make a never ending loop of incompetence once again stemping from the ultramarines from 40k all the way to my thread

Why are you hanging around for that?

Get the hell out the way! Are you trying to get killed so you can QQ?

Do you hang around in the same spot while getting spammed by MD splash damage?

i never said you guys were bad, havent played many games with you guys so i dunno. Your obviously not that great with an HMG but hey you could be AE material, i dunno. Rampage does ;) Btw we on for FW to show me or...? and yeah, i really hope you would have beat rampage with a full team of ultramairens, id be concerned if you couldent. even if you guys dont have a first company

The Splash is helpful to those who stay on the ground. Any nerf you give to the FG because of tower campers will **** up the balance of the FG.

Don't punish the whole playerbase because of a handful of scrubs from a few corps.

you started the personal attacks througout the whoooooleee thread and it started here:

so im kinda deffending myself. if you would be cool and chill in ice like your primarch i would be abit nicer too

Not that great with an HMG...this guy...lol

I think that 22/11 is doing pretty damn good when you have 3 or 4 Duvolle ARs shooting at you at once the entire match. Like I said, we had a bunch of NPC smurfs on our team. All 6 Ultramarines got over 1000 WP, not one NPC smurf cleared 500. So that should say something right there.

Of course I'm gonna die a lot when it's 6 vs 16. If I didn't that would mean I wasn't putting up a fight.

they also are 100% of the time in all PC matches and make PC gay durring battles that matter.

While I might not use the word "gay", I do agree with the point you are trying to make, and it was the primary reason I replied to this thread. Take care....Lead

if it was a handful of players on towers and a majority on the ground it wouldn't be a promblem. But it is the opposite, most forge gunners cader to safety, no risk high reward up there, the ground forge gunners are the minority. they also are 100% of the time in all PC matches and make PC gay durring battles that matter. I dont see why you are ignoring these facts

I agree, using "gay" to describe the scrubs is in bad taste.

That said, there are other ways to solve the problem besides jumping on the nerf wagon. Like I said before, nerfing the FG would do nothing but gimp people like me who don't take advantage of things like *fail map design elements.

They should fix maps instead of nerfing the FG.

In answer to your invite, we can play some games if you'd like, sure! I'm not on DUST right now though because I'm downloading the EVE client and it's taking forever. I had to download a damn download manager because I kept getting incomplete and corrupted downloads.

I should be on sometime tomorrow though, so HMU!

I knew we could find some common ground guys. Thanks for working through it.

FWIW, I'd love to squad up with you two having died at both your hands so many times over the months -- I only have the militia forge, but could provide some close fire support with my AR.

Have fun...>Lead

that would be better solution, as suggested earlier in the thread. CCP has removed entire mountains from maps before to prevent railsnipers from camping but yet to do anything for forge snipers. If they would do something like this instead of nerfing than it would be great, but if not its really the only way to do it. You would unfortionetly and wrongly effected because of the mainstream f*gs. But yeah i agree, too many nerfs happen and they are usally overnerfs, not that removing splash from an AV is devistating but we should avoid nerfs. Map fixes would be best

Man, you should slow down with the slurs, you could get banned for that **** seriously. It is offensive to a lot of people.

Yea though, I don't think the DEVs ever anticipated the tower FG sniper. A really easy fix would simply be to put some kind of fence or something on them. Or simply angle the roof so that you can't camp on it.

It's sad we even have to discuss this honestly. People will find anything and everything they can possibly exploit to give them the slightest advantage.

and its in every game but its easy in dust. its whateva tho, hopefully CCP will read this timely, cut through the flame and warhammer lore and check out the good points made on both sides. and decide not to ban me again lol