Well I guess to you its merely a means to an end, but it is what it is

Also how much ISK Do you need o,0? the game gives it away like candy.

Dear snipers that like to sit in the way back in the redzone, eff all of you. it is one of the worst ill honored B I T C H move tactic I've ever come across in any FPS, especially when an entire squad decides to do it, and counter sniping you brings me a joyful but shamelful sense of satisfaction, I shouldnt stop what I'm doing in a game to go and equip me rifle and shoot snipers that think they are smart and "exploiting game mechanics" and snipers that dont know how to properly watch their own asses in the active zone and its sorta like reverse spawn camping....or a more literal meaning of it.

And ccp needs to either not give them sp for doing this (sorta like in Killzone 3 when you cant hide and get points outside the active area)....or after a certain amount of meters not allow this to happen. Snipe like a real sniper, you'll grow better that way >: D

RUSH man I had fun sniping your team last match. To bad I could not find you to say hello. If you want to I will be more than glad to train you and show you a few things to show you I am not such a bad guy, just an evil sniper. Serious though hit me up I will try and help anyway I can.

o,0 you seriously trying to lie kid, you really that spineless and high on pcp? though I only played one game and I just scored 5/0...then logged out realizing that my sp is still maxed out...also random people on my team doesnt represent me...but i..might have shot you...were you on some beam supports earlier?

And yeh I shall look you up, could use some rivals...I only know one other person in this game u.u

Wait where you that guy on the same hill with me?!

o,0 you seriously trying to lie kid, you really that spineless and high on pcp? though I only played one game and I just scored 5/0...then logged out realizing that my sp is still maxed out...also random people on my team doesnt represent me...but i..might have shot you...were you on some beam supports earlier?

And yeh I shall look you up, could use some rivals...I only know one other person in this game u.u

Wait you logged out because your SP is maxed out, WTF. I cap by Thursday and I still play everyday so why the hell did you abandon your team like that, man that was selfish. You are a S*** player for that. Also saying they do not represent you, who the F*** are you, but a small p*** ant still living at home with mommy and daddy. Were I was is irrelevant, all that matters was I supported my team and you didn't, great job you are a class act. I have lost all respect for you, good day to you sir (Tips hat and walks off)

Noooo! don't let this depate die! let's run to the hills and fight to the bitter end! I had to choose proto DL before proto SR but I'll join the great forces of redliners!

I had fun hunting redlines yesterday :) They had thale's and as I shot them they started to run around like headless chickens :) so I was countersniping in hotzone. what a adrelanine rush! Best part was when I couldn't hit those guys, I marked them and SQL dropped OB on them :)

No i mean like what if the offender is in the action zone, but so close to the border they can just cross to the redzone if they sense or see danger (its sorta happened a couple times, i'd shoot at a guy and when i miss they scamper off way into the redzone if they manage to get out my range.

I get it... you want this to be some other game.

Stop crying about people that present something of a challenge to you. Unless there is a glitch anyone who can get a shot off at you can also be shot back.

The problem is it takes time and effort to counter them. Boo hoo.

They don't bug me that much anymore.... at least I can shoot them back now. It can take a while for me to find where they are located, but for the most part they can be found and hit. It used to be that due to various glitches one could snipe from the redline and not have counter sniping shots register.

As an occasional sniper the only thing that usually sends me deep into the redline is when **** tard proto squads need to stomp the crap out of pub matches. That's great..... I love it when a bunch of well organized squads from major corps need the added advantage of throwing proto gear on top of well-honed tactics.

I'm not gonna sit there and get stomped for their KDR, and my proto scout suit doesn't exactly even the odds, even when I'm in a squad.

So, THEN, I enjoy being in the redline and making them annoyed with me. F-them.

Dear snipers that like to sit in the way back in the redzone, eff all of you. it is one of the worst ill honored B I T C H move tactic I've ever come across in any FPS, especially when an entire squad decides to do it, and counter sniping you brings me a joyful but shamelful sense of satisfaction, I shouldnt stop what I'm doing in a game to go and equip me rifle and shoot snipers that think they are smart and "exploiting game mechanics" and snipers that dont know how to properly watch their own asses in the active zone and its sorta like reverse spawn camping....or a more literal meaning of it.

And ccp needs to either not give them sp for doing this (sorta like in Killzone 3 when you cant hide and get points outside the active area)....or after a certain amount of meters not allow this to happen. Snipe like a real sniper, you'll grow better that way >: D

OMG....thats genius...you can't get WP when your in the redzone lol XD, why have we not thought of this simple fix before

They don't bug me that much anymore.... at least I can shoot them back now. It can take a while for me to find where they are located, but for the most part they can be found and hit. It used to be that due to various glitches one could snipe from the redline and not have counter sniping shots register.

As an occasional sniper the only thing that usually sends me deep into the redline is when **** tard proto squads need to stomp the crap out of pub matches. That's great..... I love it when a bunch of well organized squads from major corps need the added advantage of throwing proto gear on top of well-honed tactics.

I'm not gonna sit there and get stomped for their KDR, and my proto scout suit doesn't exactly even the odds, even when I'm in a squad.

So, THEN, I enjoy being in the redline and making them annoyed with me. F-them.

That... was the chittiest excuse for redline sniping i've ever heard, hell even for sniping period o,0...you made it sound like becuase you're super inefficient and bad at being a sniper, you rely on **** tactics to compensate for lack of skill and therefore just proved my point entirely and better than I could have ever argued it...

...you are my hero.

Why are snipers being told off for doing their jobs?

Also...whats with everyone saying boo hoo..i said a million times i killed the *******...ugh human nature always wanting to pick at something...

QQ threads often cause nerfs... and CCP uses a hammer when it does them... and most people seem to hate snipers... so I'm going to be active on the issue.

That's problematic. For counter-sniping to be a solution to the problem, the sniper rifle I aim with the reticule red, unwavering, on a stationary target.... should have the hits actually register. Redline sniping should not be a zero-risk venture. Though I feel I'm complaining more about texture-glitch/rendering issues, which are bugs more-so than the practice of redline sniping itself. As long as things like that exist, redline sniping is a bit broken though, it's just a matter of whether or not the player knows how to exploit it.

I don't mind snipers generally, but it's aggravating if you can't shoot back.

I find if a sniper is far enough in the red line, it's impossible to attack them on foot. So, counter-snipe, right? Well, it seems like the texture/rendering glitch is still alive and well, because I've gotten a bead on redline snipers before but have found my shots unable to register (eaten by hill, or who knows what else).

That's problematic. For counter-sniping to be a solution to the problem, the sniper rifle I aim with the reticule red, unwavering, on a stationary target.... should have the hits actually register. Redline sniping should not be a zero-risk venture. Though I feel I'm complaining more about texture-glitch/rendering issues, which are bugs more-so than the practice of redline sniping itself. As long as things like that exist, redline sniping is a bit broken though, it's just a matter of whether or not the player knows how to exploit it.