16 vs 16 domi match, 6 players on one side attempting to capture the point (maybe 4 or 5) and the rest with militia sniper rifles and their starter fits sitting at the ground spawn shooting into the active zone for an entire match. The other side using no snipers and capturing the point. Their whole team was on point and unable to be seen from ground spawn on the north side of manus peak. Also not able to be seen from the ground spawn on the south side of manus peak.

I don't mind snipers generally, but it's aggravating if you can't shoot back.

I find if a sniper is far enough in the red line, it's impossible to attack them on foot. So, counter-snipe, right? Well, it seems like the texture/rendering glitch is still alive and well, because I've gotten a bead on redline snipers before but have found my shots unable to register (eaten by hill, or who knows what else).

That's problematic. For counter-sniping to be a solution to the problem, the sniper rifle I aim with the reticule red, unwavering, on a stationary target.... should have the hits actually register. Redline sniping should not be a zero-risk venture. Though I feel I'm complaining more about texture-glitch/rendering issues, which are bugs more-so than the practice of redline sniping itself. As long as things like that exist, redline sniping is a bit broken though, it's just a matter of whether or not the player knows how to exploit it.

I am somewhat partial to limiting WP gain in the redzone, but not because of snipers. It is strictly because of militia snipers that use their entire team in the red zone to shoot into the green zone. There are a lot of people doing it, it annoys me quite a lot and I think it is counter to current "burnzone" policies. You get kicked from battle if you aren't doing anything and although I support a sniper's right to camp, being in the redline means you are unable to take points or see the majority of any map to be effective as a sniper. Get a life and HTFO. Camp a spawn point, camp an objective, camp a high traffic area and actually make a difference in a match rather than relying on the one squad left to do everything. Removing the WP/SP gain from the redzone may actually solve this, although I do feel certain types of WP/SP gain may actually be helpful. Logistic WP for example so team mates can make it out of the redzone such as drop uplinks, which function and deliver WP to the logi no matter where they are. Triage WP which could mean the difference in getting the group out of the redzone in the first place while they are under fire.
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Better yet, redistribute wp/sp earnings from redline areas to those in the area of the map that is fully accessible. I would't turn down an extra 1450 wp from a 29/0 redline sniper being redistributed between the other members of the team not in the redzone.

Use the map feedback section and direct devs to the appropriate quadrant of the map. They can't fix things they don't know about. Explain the issue you have with the appropriate quadrant.

That doesn't mean that snipers as a whole should suffer though :/. There's a reason snipers stay far back for. It keeps their K/D high which in turn means they can even afford their PRO gear and fits. A sniper who dies more then once wearing ADV , say twice, may lose profit or break even. At worst their losing money every game.

By the way isn't it sort of you teams fault as well for not having any counter snipers? There are ways to snipe even the best of them (top of the MCC) if they don't catch onto you you've basically got the whole BF under your thumb. But i'll say it again don't use MLT gear as the basis for all snipers since at higher levels a dead sniper loses money and it's hard enough as it is. If anything they could add sort of a recon sniper which get's an increase to scanning range for all scanning devices and an increase in precision. It'd sort of the opposite of the gallente sniper suit.

Even if I didn't receive WPs, I would still snipe from the redline.
Redline sniper solidarity.

QQ threads often cause nerfs... and CCP uses a hammer when it does them... and most people seem to hate snipers... so I'm going to be active on the issue.

That doesn't mean that snipers as a whole should suffer though :/. There's a reason snipers stay far back for. It keeps their K/D high which in turn means they can even afford their PRO gear and fits. A sniper who dies more then once wearing ADV , say twice, may lose profit or break even. At worst their losing money every game.

By the way isn't it sort of you teams fault as well for not having any counter snipers? There are ways to snipe even the best of them (top of the MCC) if they don't catch onto you you've basically got the whole BF under your thumb. But i'll say it again don't use MLT gear as the basis for all snipers since at higher levels a dead sniper loses money and it's hard enough as it is. If anything they could add sort of a recon sniper which get's an increase to scanning range for all scanning devices and an increase in precision. It'd sort of the opposite of the gallente sniper suit.

Must admit I fecking hate proto wearing, charge sniper, try hard keyboard and mouse warriors who red line picking off vulnerable militia wearing mercs, I just sent hate mail to one the brave souls, couldn't help myself.

I had fun hunting redlines yesterday :) They had thale's and as I shot them they started to run around like headless chickens :) so I was countersniping in hotzone. what a adrelanine rush! Best part was when I couldn't hit those guys, I marked them and SQL dropped OB on them :)

Blame the game for allowing it, not the players.

So in other words... Your just aggravated because you want everyone to be in range of your Assault Rifle? Or are you just incredibly lazy?

If you actually had a sniper rifle to switch to this wouldn't bother you at all. Snipers call the redline the "free kill zone" because we shoot INTO it if we want a few more WP.

head glitching could be solved by lowering the zoom area of the scopes, if you fired from a lower area snipers would need to reveal more of their head, and we wouldn't be shooting hill as much while counter sniping.

I can respect that, though I dunno how they would even nerf a sniper...ironically statwise and aim-wise I believe its the most fair skilled weapon in the game and most of my posts are actually about buffing some of the hammered weapons at least halfway back to their former glory! RIP my poor flaylock and Glu 5 Tact....

If you snipe in a scout suit you'll be feeling the nerf hammer already. If not, the rifle itself seems to work alright these days since enemies are showing up reasonably... though I still think the sway could have been implemented as dispersion to avoid having to fight the control all the time. Have to admit sway adjustment is pretty much second nature now.