OMG....thats genius...you can't get WP when your in the redzone lol XD, why have we not thought of this simple fix before

Hmm unsure here but you are complaining about it and at the same time saying it brings you joy to counter snipe them while they are in there...? So... you're for or against redline sniping?

Dear snipers that like to sit in the way back in the redzone, eff all of you. it is one of the worst ill honored B I T C H move tactic I've ever come across in any FPS, especially when an entire squad decides to do it, and counter sniping you brings me a joyful but shamelful sense of satisfaction, I shouldnt stop what I'm doing in a game to go and equip me rifle and shoot snipers that think they are smart and "exploiting game mechanics" and snipers that dont know how to properly watch their own asses in the active zone and its sorta like reverse spawn camping....or a more literal meaning of it.

And ccp needs to either not give them sp for doing this (sorta like in Killzone 3 when you cant hide and get points outside the active area)....or after a certain amount of meters not allow this to happen. Snipe like a real sniper, you'll grow better that way >: D

Lol, "snipe like a real sniper". Somebody needs to read up on real sniping. Yeah, snipers are a *****. That's the idea. WP? What's that? Can I shoot it?

There are a sh*tton of places a sniper can't hit esp. If shooting from the redline. You have found the solution too in countersniping.

I don't see the problem other than the same "everything ought to be basic, vanilla assault" arguement.

It is apparently effective and valid game play.

As much as I hate snipers, your thread is an example that the sniper is doing his job. A sniper is supposed to be at a location where he cannot be hit or found. And his job is to demoralize the enemy as well as give intel to his teammates.

Again, I can't stand snipers because of that but a good sniper I respect. If he wants to hide behind the redline, fine. I have no problems with going into the redline to give em a personal signed F U very much card with the unloading of my "OP" AR.

It's not about fairness, this is war. Unless New Eden has some rules of engagement that I'm unawares of, the sniper is doing what he's allowed to do.

I usually don't snipe, but when I do, I redzone snipe with tank protologi suit. Other time I spam DL and Hives in battleground.

Heh thank you, I only thought about it due to Killzone where you cant earn points in the Body guard parts of the match by trying to hide way where its almost impossible to get at the target.

sarcasm fail

Well yes..you fail at it quite well...it wasnt funny and i still feel smarter : D

sarcasm: the bastard stepchild of irony

Yes the point of a sniper is to be unseen and unreachable, and yeah a sniper is doing their job...but at the same time thats like saying spawn camping is the best thing to do cus the game is about killing the other players...its unfair and breaks the balance, those aspects tend to lead to making games unplayable.

And I said snipers that sit way in the back of the redzone, meaning that you wont be able to touch them within the time limit given, or if there is a bunch of them in the redzone an you cannot possibly get to even one of them since you're forced to take snipers on head on instead of trying to get around them. Your OP AR will be about as good as a rock.

And like i said it breaks the integrity and immersion of a game of "war" when there is a place that the other team cannot walk on without exploding, that never happens in any war, videogame or real...so I still think it is a really bad mechanic to exploit, and i dont feel demoralized about getting killed by that kind of sniper, I just feel cheated and annoyed, which should never happen in any game. I feel like that if the sniper is in the play zone and has legitimately outsmarted me. not by taking the cheapest of all shots.

Welp there will always be those players that cant get kills the manly way

And actually I dropped hives to other fellow snipers yesterday

Yes the point of a sniper is to be unseen and unreachable, and yeah a sniper is doing their job...but at the same time thats like saying spawn camping is the best thing to do cus the game is about killing the other players...its unfair and breaks the balance, those aspects tend to lead to making games unplayable.

And I said snipers that sit way in the back of the redzone, meaning that you wont be able to touch them within the time limit given, or if there is a bunch of them in the redzone an you cannot possibly get to even one of them since you're forced to take snipers on head on instead of trying to get around them. Your OP AR will be about as good as a rock.

And like i said it breaks the integrity and immersion of a game of "war" when there is a place that the other team cannot walk on without exploding, that never happens in any war, videogame or real...so I still think it is a really bad mechanic to exploit, and i dont feel demoralized about getting killed by that kind of sniper, I just feel cheated and annoyed, which should never happen in any game. I feel like that if the sniper is in the play zone and has legitimately outsmarted me. not by taking the cheapest of all shots.

Ok so they're using the field to their advantage. What's the problem? Also in fact, there is no actual rule that states that spawn camping is not allowed. It's an understanding between players but if one decides to spawn camp, he's neither a cheat or a abuser of it. He is well within his right to stand there and kill each merc who spawns there. Someone should be on comms warning about the spawn camper.

It doesn't break the integrity and immersion of a game of war. It's part of war. Why else you think snipers get killed when they are found in actual war?

Yea, its frustrating. Yea its getting on your nerves. But the truth is they can do that. As much as I hate snipers, I don't want the rules changed to what you suggested. It's okay for me when I have to do some redline sniping but for me to complain when its done to me is rather silly.

In other words, take your butt whoopings like a man. Either pull out your snipes or have a teammate go after the target with their sniper.

Ok, you just don't get what I'm saying. You keep throwing everything else into the fray. If I continue down this road with you, you will talk about everything from murder taxi to spawn uplinks just to support your "snipers shouldn't be sniping from redline" argument.

And c'mon with this "THAT is what war is". Really, in war you don't have a forum to come back to and talk about what's fair. It's life and death so just what in the hell are you talking about? You don't get to respawn if a sniper kills you from an undisclosed location. You don't get to tell him he's less of a man because of it. He's alive and you're dead. Period. In war they have a Geneva Convention but it doesn't mean squat to some armies. The thought of that is not going to keep you from death nor will it stop torture.

You guys whine just WAY too much about everything. Leave up to the community, Dust 514 will become just an octagon with people using actual Nerf toys as weapons. Deal with it.

an assaulter is pissed because a sniper is sniping...

now iv seen everything in this forum.

In defence of snipers, "some" don't realise they are in the redline since its not shown on their side of the map (i.e. it's closer for the enemy). Addition of a yellow DMZ is probably a better analogy for this. Personally I don't mind redline snipers, its part of the game & mechanics.