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Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:05:00 -
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I am somewhat partial to limiting WP gain in the redzone, but not because of snipers. It is strictly because of militia snipers that use their entire team in the red zone to shoot into the green zone. There are a lot of people doing it, it annoys me quite a lot and I think it is counter to current "burnzone" policies. You get kicked from battle if you aren't doing anything and although I support a sniper's right to camp, being in the redline means you are unable to take points or see the majority of any map to be effective as a sniper. Get a life and HTFO. Camp a spawn point, camp an objective, camp a high traffic area and actually make a difference in a match rather than relying on the one squad left to do everything. Removing the WP/SP gain from the redzone may actually solve this, although I do feel certain types of WP/SP gain may actually be helpful. Logistic WP for example so team mates can make it out of the redzone such as drop uplinks, which function and deliver WP to the logi no matter where they are. Triage WP which could mean the difference in getting the group out of the redzone in the first place while they are under fire. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:13:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Why are snipers being told off for doing their jobs? 16 vs 16 domi match, 6 players on one side attempting to capture the point (maybe 4 or 5) and the rest with militia sniper rifles and their starter fits sitting at the ground spawn shooting into the active zone for an entire match. The other side using no snipers and capturing the point. Their whole team was on point and unable to be seen from ground spawn on the north side of manus peak. Also not able to be seen from the ground spawn on the south side of manus peak. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:34:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I don't mind snipers generally, but it's aggravating if you can't shoot back.
I find if a sniper is far enough in the red line, it's impossible to attack them on foot. So, counter-snipe, right? Well, it seems like the texture/rendering glitch is still alive and well, because I've gotten a bead on redline snipers before but have found my shots unable to register (eaten by hill, or who knows what else).
That's problematic. For counter-sniping to be a solution to the problem, the sniper rifle I aim with the reticule red, unwavering, on a stationary target.... should have the hits actually register. Redline sniping should not be a zero-risk venture. Though I feel I'm complaining more about texture-glitch/rendering issues, which are bugs more-so than the practice of redline sniping itself. As long as things like that exist, redline sniping is a bit broken though, it's just a matter of whether or not the player knows how to exploit it. Use the map feedback section and direct devs to the appropriate quadrant of the map. They can't fix things they don't know about. Explain the issue you have with the appropriate quadrant. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:43:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Why are snipers being told off for doing their jobs? 16 vs 16 domi match, 6 players on one side attempting to capture the point (maybe 4 or 5) and the rest with militia sniper rifles and their starter fits sitting at the ground spawn shooting into the active zone for an entire match. The other side using no snipers and capturing the point. Their whole team was on point and unable to be seen from ground spawn on the north side of manus peak. Also not able to be seen from the ground spawn on the south side of manus peak. That doesn't mean that snipers as a whole should suffer though :/. There's a reason snipers stay far back for. It keeps their K/D high which in turn means they can even afford their PRO gear and fits. A sniper who dies more then once wearing ADV , say twice, may lose profit or break even. At worst their losing money every game. By the way isn't it sort of you teams fault as well for not having any counter snipers? There are ways to snipe even the best of them (top of the MCC) if they don't catch onto you you've basically got the whole BF under your thumb. But i'll say it again don't use MLT gear as the basis for all snipers since at higher levels a dead sniper loses money and it's hard enough as it is. If anything they could add sort of a recon sniper which get's an increase to scanning range for all scanning devices and an increase in precision. It'd sort of the opposite of the gallente sniper suit. This was a match that I was in the 4 man squad assaulting the objective. HTFO and get your gun to somewhere that provides assistance. I don't care who you are or how good your sniper rifle is, if it can't cover the squads trying to actually win the match then you are in the wrong spot to be sniping. Generally the redline areas are not ideal for sniping and have longer ranges to target as well as lower elevations (but not always) and it is not punishment to stop SP/WP gain in the redzone. It is rewarding trying to win rather than rewarding awoxing. If a sniper can't pay at least as much as I do for my Logi fit then they shouldn't be sniping (100-200k isk) in the redzone. Do I make WP points if I logi-ing in the redzone? Most likely not. Stop being a tightwad and go kill the guys shooting at me while I heal and hack. |
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