Can't tell you when the last time that happened to me was.... nope... a complete blank. Could be because I increased my hacking speed. I like that the objectives double as spawn points because I'm sure not everyone wants to run around with uplinks all the time. If they did then thy would just play Domination.

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

You infiltrate successfully, you kill everybody, you begin to hack the point.


*ssssssszzzzroooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooom*

The guy you just killed spawns behind you, cloaked and invincible, and proceeds to take his time to aim and shoot you in the back.

Again, the person who just died is being rewarded with a free kill because of BS spawn location mechanics.

Why are we rewarding failure? If he wanted to guard his point so badly he shouldn't have died in the first place. We already have plenty of ways for people to spawn. We have uplinks, we have CRU's, hell we even have mobile CRU's. Why do we need a stupid mechanic that basically allows your opponent to shoot you in the back without doing any work whatsoever?


If I storm a point solo like Jimmy Badass, and I wipe out everybody, I should be rewarded for it. Currently I am not and this is stupid.

Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.

Thanks.

Spawning on the null cannons isn't a great game mechanic, I agree.

Personally, I think all spawning should be dropping from the sky. Drop uplinks would simply be markers that people can drop down onto, and preset spawn points would essentially be unlimited indestructable versions of the same thing. MCC spawning is fine as it is. I suspect this change would be a bit too radical to get much support though.

Someone just got shot in the back.

You infiltrate successfully, you kill everybody, you begin to hack the point.


*ssssssszzzzroooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooom*

The guy you just killed spawns behind you, cloaked and invincible, and proceeds to take his time to aim and shoot you in the back.

Again, the person who just died is being rewarded with a free kill because of BS spawn location mechanics.

Why are we rewarding failure? If he wanted to guard his point so badly he shouldn't have died in the first place. We already have plenty of ways for people to spawn. We have uplinks, we have CRU's, hell we even have mobile CRU's. Why do we need a stupid mechanic that basically allows your opponent to shoot you in the back without doing any work whatsoever?


If I storm a point solo like Jimmy Badass, and I wipe out everybody, I should be rewarded for it. Currently I am not and this is stupid.

Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.

Thanks.

It doesn't matter how fast your hack speed is. If you are killing more than three people at a single location, you will not be fast enough unless you killed all of them with the same attack.

Sounds more like you are ignoring the enemy entirely and just sneaking past them for a quick hack and then running away. Which is a valid strategy if your skill point distribution supports it.

But it should not be more valid than simply killing everybody and taking the point by force.

And then again, you're probably just lying anyway so you can argue for the sake of argument. People do that a lot around here.

happens all the time.
Usually when I have a complex code-breaker equipped.
Because pub-match skirmishes also have a reduced/inconsistant timer on spawns. It is not always 10 seconds. Especially when they die next to the null cannon.
1 complex code breaker brings my hack time down to 5.6 seconds. and 2nd codebreaker, which I really couldn't fit anyways, would bring it down to 4.4.

It isn't about how fast you Hack, it is how fast they spawn in, with no work of their own.
I can regularly take out 3+ guys when they're at a point trying to defend it. These new enclosed spaces making it all the more easier to kill with a shotgun. I have a passive scanner large enough to actually see where uplinks or people are, but they get to spawn in at some random point because the null cannon is there where they don't show up until after they shoot.

So broken. I suppose thought, it is better for those players that'd rather this be a twitch shooter than some tactical game

You infiltrate successfully, you kill everybody, you begin to hack the point.


*ssssssszzzzroooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooom*

The guy you just killed spawns behind you, cloaked and invincible, and proceeds to take his time to aim and shoot you in the back.

Again, the person who just died is being rewarded with a free kill because of BS spawn location mechanics.

Why are we rewarding failure? If he wanted to guard his point so badly he shouldn't have died in the first place. We already have plenty of ways for people to spawn. We have uplinks, we have CRU's, hell we even have mobile CRU's. Why do we need a stupid mechanic that basically allows your opponent to shoot you in the back without doing any work whatsoever?


If I storm a point solo like Jimmy Badass, and I wipe out everybody, I should be rewarded for it. Currently I am not and this is stupid.

Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.

Thanks.

Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.

Thanks.

Repeatedly.


It's bad enough the radar in this game is a complete joke. If I have to kill five people guarding a point I know for a fact there is no way I'm going to hack the point because they will continually trickle spawn in, ten feet behind me, out of thin air.

And every time I turn around and kill one, there will always be another popping up right next to him as soon as I'm finished killing the last guy.

It's a ridiculous situation.

If they are that bad just let me beat them and take the point, Christ.

Just throwing this out there when they spawn they are invisible not invincible killed a few see through merc's with my mass driver to keep the heat off the dude hacking. Or if in my stealth hack scout fit I drop RE's before hacking to ensure revenge on the guy who gets me if someone does get the drop on me while hacking.

This.
Instead of a spawn countdown, we simply have time taken to fall from the sky.
Uplinks can serve as a target beacon to be launched towards.

I would worry about how easy it would become to drop on high ground and stay there though.

And on top of this we can hear when they spawn, so it doesn't seen so unfair to me. I've loved those games where i head out to take a remote point solo and can't hack it because peeps keep spawning and i keep killing them until they get me or i hack the point.

Removing spawning from objective points would definitely change the game dynamics - didn't we do this once before in beta?