Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.

Thanks.

Why do you say things as if its the answer to the situation when it isn't?

It doesn't matter how fast you hack. If you have to give up a slot for hacking, you will be worse in combat. Combat is supposed to be just as viable for getting a job done as stealth.

If I kill everyone at an objective and there are no uplinks, I should be able to take that objective uncontested. Period.

The difference is in capture the flag the enemy cannot spawn on a dropped flag. You don't have to worry about an endless stream of enemies appearing out of no where at the dropped flag. At the flag's original location? Yeah, it's fair there because you can grab the flag instantly and get the hell out of there.

And skirmish will still be a small localized battle without objective spawning. When I spawn in, I don't have to travel over a kilometer to reach the nearest point.

And yes, if one team leaves a base unprotected and the other capitalizes on it, the first team should lose the base. They didn't plan well enough. It means tactics and coordination will actually matters as opposed to the defender zerg rush we have now.

And yes, spawning on an objective is different from spawning on an uplink or CRU. The uplink can be easily destroyed and the CRU doesn't actively tell everyone which CRU I am hacking.



If an objective is actively held by a fair number of people who have entrenched themselves (uplinks, nanos, etc.), then yes, it should take multiple people. The problem is when an objective is guarded by 1 or 2 people, you remove all uplinks, hack any CRUs, and get the drop on both of them. Now you are stuck on an infinite loop of those 1 or 2 people respawning continuously because you have no way to prevent it in time.


And to whoever said it takes 10 secs to spawn, that is quite often not the case. Often it will be only 3 secs.

I agree with the OP. I guess the reason it is like this is to give the defender the ability to regroup after the initial assault, which tends to make the battle more intense. But this could be achieved equally well by placing a CRU a stone's throw away from every hack point in skirmish.

Where there is already a CRU near the hack point (e.g. outside B on both communications outpost and biomass) they could introduce a second CRU on the other side of the hackpoint, so you'd still have those epic close quarters battles that flare up where one side holds the point, and the other holds the CRU.

Keeping your allies alive is no excuse for getting yourself killed.

And if he was purely playing nurse maid in a first person shooter, he would be nowhere near the enemy point anyway, thus rendering his opinion worthless from the start.

And for the record, I've played an HMG heavy since closed beta. Hardly FOTM.

If i can kill five by myself, but a logi must trade his life for another, then it stands to reason hes pretty worthless. Carry your weight or dont play. We dont win matches by serving tea to the wounded soldiers. dps from gun > healing from rep tool. Especially with aimbot. k thx bai.

I'd just like to say that even though Dust is more geared toward squad-based tactics, there are times a solo op is needed.

Such as when the rest of the team keeps the enemy occupied at one or two points allowing a person to sneak to the other objectives. This tactic can serve either one of two purposes: A) enemy doesn't realize an objective is being taken and your team gets an objective B) enemy does realize an objective is being taken and a group rushes of to stop it thus reducing the number of enemies your team has to fight at the main confrontation area.

Rashly saying that solo work shouldn't work because this game is based on tactics is in fact limiting the number of tactics that can be employed.

I'm not saying you should win solely by lone wolfing it, but a single person taking over a lightly guarded objective before reinforcements arrive should definitely be quite feasible whereas right now it is very difficult to accomplish.

Yes, I've seen the OP pulling the KDR card and vehemently disagree with the OPs belief that KDR = player value.

However, I also feel that objective spawning is not something dust should have. Even with hacking to 5 (I currently have 3, btw), that does not mean you will always have enough time to hack the objective since you have to kill the defender(s), run to the objective, begin hacking, and hope that you got there fast enough and they don't get a reduced spawn time.

This means the defenders are not defeating you through well played tactics. They are defeating you through a nearly guaranteed 2nd, 3rd, etc chance to get revenge.

If to remove objective spawning that means adding more CRUs around objectives, then so be it. Those I can handle ahead of time. Objective spawning I cannot.