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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:38:00 -
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You infiltrate successfully, you kill everybody, you begin to hack the point.
*ssssssszzzzroooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooom*
The guy you just killed spawns behind you, cloaked and invincible, and proceeds to take his time to aim and shoot you in the back.
Again, the person who just died is being rewarded with a free kill because of BS spawn location mechanics.
Why are we rewarding failure? If he wanted to guard his point so badly he shouldn't have died in the first place. We already have plenty of ways for people to spawn. We have uplinks, we have CRU's, hell we even have mobile CRU's. Why do we need a stupid mechanic that basically allows your opponent to shoot you in the back without doing any work whatsoever?
If I storm a point solo like Jimmy Badass, and I wipe out everybody, I should be rewarded for it. Currently I am not and this is stupid.
Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Friends suck and in this scenario the only thing they are good for (literally) is getting shot in the face so you don't have to. If there is going to be a mechanic that supports friendship and rainbows, it shouldn't be centered around this situation. If I am capable of solo'ing the world, reward me for it properly.
Thanks. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:46:00 -
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Repeatedly.
It's bad enough the radar in this game is a complete joke. If I have to kill five people guarding a point I know for a fact there is no way I'm going to hack the point because they will continually trickle spawn in, ten feet behind me, out of thin air.
And every time I turn around and kill one, there will always be another popping up right next to him as soon as I'm finished killing the last guy.
It's a ridiculous situation.
If they are that bad just let me beat them and take the point, Christ. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:53:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Can't tell you when the last time that happened to me was.... nope... a complete blank. Could be because I increased my hacking speed. I like that the objectives double as spawn points because I'm sure not everyone wants to run around with uplinks all the time. If they did then thy would just play Domination.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
It doesn't matter how fast your hack speed is. If you are killing more than three people at a single location, you will not be fast enough unless you killed all of them with the same attack.
Sounds more like you are ignoring the enemy entirely and just sneaking past them for a quick hack and then running away. Which is a valid strategy if your skill point distribution supports it.
But it should not be more valid than simply killing everybody and taking the point by force.
And then again, you're probably just lying anyway so you can argue for the sake of argument. People do that a lot around here. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.22 14:13:00 -
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Spawning from the sky would only be humorous for a day, because everybody would make it a sport to try and kill people before they hit the ground. Tag em with a forge gun for extra points and watch them explode.
Then we would all realize how stupid it is.
CRU's and uplinks are good enough.
You wanna spawn from the sky, get a logi dropship. |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:06:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Just throwing this out there when they spawn they are invisible not invincible killed a few see through merc's with my mass driver to keep the heat off the dude hacking. Or if in my stealth hack scout fit I drop RE's before hacking to ensure revenge on the guy who gets me if someone does get the drop on me while hacking. And on top of this we can hear when they spawn, so it doesn't seen so unfair to me. I've loved those games where i head out to take a remote point solo and can't hack it because peeps keep spawning and i keep killing them until they get me or i hack the point. Removing spawning from objective points would definitely change the game dynamics - didn't we do this once before in beta?
Yea i can hear them spawn. Doesnt change the fact they are spawning. I killed everyone once already why should i have to do it again. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 01:38:00 -
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General Erick wrote: Sounds like youre not a people person.
Cant say that I am. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:09:00 -
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CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT wrote:There are suits (Mini logi) modules (codebreakers) and a hacking skill for just this purpose.
They work really well, so skill up.
There is no need to make changes to the game like people are proposing when the solution is already built into the game.
Make a hacking suit fit. Bring a friend or two if you can't (helpful even if you can).
3-4s to complete a hack and you can counter hack an objective faster than most people can hack it in the first place.
Why do you say things as if its the answer to the situation when it isn't?
It doesn't matter how fast you hack. If you have to give up a slot for hacking, you will be worse in combat. Combat is supposed to be just as viable for getting a job done as stealth.
If I kill everyone at an objective and there are no uplinks, I should be able to take that objective uncontested. Period. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:36:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has...
On a hunch I looked up your KDR.
0.75.... very impressive.
Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you.
You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it.
Worthless response from a worthless player.
But thanks for playing anyway. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has... On a hunch I looked up your KDR. 0.75.... very impressive. Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you. You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it. Worthless response from a worthless player. But thanks for playing anyway. Dude he plays a Logi role like it was supposed to be played, he isn't a douchy prick like you who went through all of the FoTM's just to jack up and jack off to his KDR.
Keeping your allies alive is no excuse for getting yourself killed.
And if he was purely playing nurse maid in a first person shooter, he would be nowhere near the enemy point anyway, thus rendering his opinion worthless from the start.
And for the record, I've played an HMG heavy since closed beta. Hardly FOTM. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:06:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
I find myself agreeing with an Amarr --- What is New Eden coming to???
Your wizard hat is waiting for you in the other forum. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:18:00 -
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If i can kill five by myself, but a logi must trade his life for another, then it stands to reason hes pretty worthless. Carry your weight or dont play. We dont win matches by serving tea to the wounded soldiers. dps from gun > healing from rep tool. Especially with aimbot. k thx bai. |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:49:00 -
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I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. And your fixation with some imaginary number in a video game, aka KDR, makes you seem like some 13yr old CoD kid who spends his time telling far better people how L33t he is.... all those 360 no scope pro MGL backflipping asshats suit you well enough Himiko. I'd rather have a logi at my back any day than your KDR grubbing ass.
kdr threatens you, eh? Youre smart to pick the logi. People who cant accomplish anything need them, and I would leave your ass on the ground where you belong. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:18:00 -
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I wasnt talking about your profession. Context. If you want to lose money tanking i completely support that. Vehicle users are the greatest tear souce. |
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