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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1756
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has... On a hunch I looked up your KDR. 0.75.... very impressive. Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you. You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it. Worthless response from a worthless player. But thanks for playing anyway. Dude he plays a Logi role like it was supposed to be played, he isn't a douchy prick like you who went through all of the FoTM's just to jack up and jack off to his KDR.
I find myself agreeing with an Amarr --- What is New Eden coming to??? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1586
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has... On a hunch I looked up your KDR. 0.75.... very impressive. Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you. You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it. Worthless response from a worthless player. But thanks for playing anyway. Dude he plays a Logi role like it was supposed to be played, he isn't a douchy prick like you who went through all of the FoTM's just to jack up and jack off to his KDR.
Keeping your allies alive is no excuse for getting yourself killed.
And if he was purely playing nurse maid in a first person shooter, he would be nowhere near the enemy point anyway, thus rendering his opinion worthless from the start.
And for the record, I've played an HMG heavy since closed beta. Hardly FOTM. |
Beck Weathers
High-Damage
118
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:58:00 -
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I do kinda wish there wasent spawning on null cannons in skirmish. Would make uplinks way more sefull aswell. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1587
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:06:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
I find myself agreeing with an Amarr --- What is New Eden coming to???
Your wizard hat is waiting for you in the other forum. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1756
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:16:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has... On a hunch I looked up your KDR. 0.75.... very impressive. Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you. You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it. Worthless response from a worthless player. But thanks for playing anyway. Dude he plays a Logi role like it was supposed to be played, he isn't a douchy prick like you who went through all of the FoTM's just to jack up and jack off to his KDR. Keeping your allies alive is no excuse for getting yourself killed. And if he was purely playing nurse maid in a first person shooter, he would be nowhere near the enemy point anyway, thus rendering his opinion worthless from the start. And for the record, I've played an HMG heavy since closed beta. Hardly FOTM.
You're wrong about that. A good logi goes to where the combat is to keep his team supplied and alive. Combat happens at objectives, so that is exactly where a Logi should be.
Also, if you have a needle or repair tool out as your primary "weapon", then that means the enemy will be able to more easily get the drop on you. Your logic is flawed, and your attitude is horrible. You come across as an angry kid who is upset that he got beat because he didn't pay attention to his surroundings. This is a war simulation game - it's not meant to be fair, and you are expected to expect the unexpected. Adapt to that, and you won't be so upset when things don't go your way. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
644
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:31:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Ion Crush wrote:Someone just got shot in the back. Someone needs to work on their hacking skills... Honestly, to the OP this has never happened to me and I have never been able to spawn back in fast enough to kill a hacker... 10 seconds + server and client gets in the way... Pointless post for a problem that only the OP has... On a hunch I looked up your KDR. 0.75.... very impressive. Let's explain why this isn't a situation that effects you. You have to be able to kill your enemy before they can respawn and kill you back. Instead, you are simply dying the majority of the time. When you are no longer dying before actually getting anywhere near the point, you may experience some of these metagame difficulties of actually capping it. Worthless response from a worthless player. But thanks for playing anyway. Dude he plays a Logi role like it was supposed to be played, he isn't a douchy prick like you who went through all of the FoTM's just to jack up and jack off to his KDR. Keeping your allies alive is no excuse for getting yourself killed. And if he was purely playing nurse maid in a first person shooter, he would be nowhere near the enemy point anyway, thus rendering his opinion worthless from the start. And for the record, I've played an HMG heavy since closed beta. Hardly FOTM.
Well done OP, well done!! I comend you, you have single handly united droves of people some of the enemies, together in a crusade against your utter stupidity!!
Well done |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1595
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:18:00 -
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If i can kill five by myself, but a logi must trade his life for another, then it stands to reason hes pretty worthless. Carry your weight or dont play. We dont win matches by serving tea to the wounded soldiers. dps from gun > healing from rep tool. Especially with aimbot. k thx bai. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1281
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:20:00 -
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Because if you spawn on an upling it gives other mercs points |
Crimson Judgment
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:55:00 -
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i don't know maybe they should just make it that if a hack is in progress no one can spawn i really don't see the problem have you ever tried doing the pottie dance while hacking lol most people can't hit you and you can finish the hack and kill them if you're lucky |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1761
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:If i can kill five by myself, but a logi must trade his life for another, then it stands to reason hes pretty worthless. Carry your weight or dont play. We dont win matches by serving tea to the wounded soldiers. dps from gun > healing from rep tool. Especially with aimbot. k thx bai.
Again, you don't get it.
If a logi revives 5 people, manages say 2 assists, puts out ammo that allows say 5 people to reload without having to pull back to a supply depot when pressing an objective, allows 15-20 people to spawn in to reinforce an attack or defense of an objective over the course of a match, then he is damn well work the cost of the 10 clones he lost.
If you don't understand that Logi's are keeping your team in the game, that they keep your team from being clone killed and losing the match.... oh I just got it.
You're a player that doesn't give a damn about winning, and only care that your KDR is high.
I'm done with you. |
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
649
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:27:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:If i can kill five by myself, but a logi must trade his life for another, then it stands to reason hes pretty worthless. Carry your weight or dont play. We dont win matches by serving tea to the wounded soldiers. dps from gun > healing from rep tool. Especially with aimbot. k thx bai.
My god, I didn't think someone could be this stupid!! This isn't your average everyday stupid this is advanced stupid
Welcome to new eden Himiko you are 1 merc, in battle in war, on a planet, in system in an entire universe. Killing people here is unimportant, they are immortal, killing them just allows you to make a push!
Logistics players keep the lines thick, have you heard of the term field medic? Logistics are more important than a lone wolfer! Of all people we would expect to understand and appreciate a logi, it would be a heavy class player!
If you want to take a null cannon, it requires a hell alot more patience than just storming a point with a heavy suit! |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
475
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:42:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Not sure if you realized, but Dust is a tactical, squad-based shooter. Friends aren't optional. If you're running around solo, you're doing it wrong.
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broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
265
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:20:00 -
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I accept it because I don't want to use others uplinks. I would rather trudge across the map or bring in an LAV than spawn in god knows where the other guy decided to land it. The zoom on the map helps but sorry I just don't trust that its safe/sensible and not surrounded by campers. At least the cannon spawns are not fixed and scatter you around. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
714
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:24:00 -
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Don't attack a null cannon without support, lesson learned, now we're making progress! Next lesson will be no Rambo moments. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
282
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:30:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Not sure if you realized, but Dust is a tactical, squad-based shooter. Friends aren't optional. If you're running around solo, you're doing it wrong.
I'd just like to say that even though Dust is more geared toward squad-based tactics, there are times a solo op is needed.
Such as when the rest of the team keeps the enemy occupied at one or two points allowing a person to sneak to the other objectives. This tactic can serve either one of two purposes: A) enemy doesn't realize an objective is being taken and your team gets an objective B) enemy does realize an objective is being taken and a group rushes of to stop it thus reducing the number of enemies your team has to fight at the main confrontation area.
Rashly saying that solo work shouldn't work because this game is based on tactics is in fact limiting the number of tactics that can be employed.
I'm not saying you should win solely by lone wolfing it, but a single person taking over a lightly guarded objective before reinforcements arrive should definitely be quite feasible whereas right now it is very difficult to accomplish. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
652
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:48:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Whats that you say? Bring friends? No. To hell with friends. That should be optional. Situational. Not for everybody. Not sure if you realized, but Dust is a tactical, squad-based shooter. Friends aren't optional. If you're running around solo, you're doing it wrong. I'd just like to say that even though Dust is more geared toward squad-based tactics, there are times a solo op is needed. Such as when the rest of the team keeps the enemy occupied at one or two points allowing a person to sneak to the other objectives. This tactic can serve either one of two purposes: A) enemy doesn't realize an objective is being taken and your team gets an objective B) enemy does realize an objective is being taken and a group rushes of to stop it thus reducing the number of enemies your team has to fight at the main confrontation area. Rashly saying that solo work shouldn't work because this game is based on tactics is in fact limiting the number of tactics that can be employed. I'm not saying you should win solely by lone wolfing it, but a single person taking over a lightly guarded objective before reinforcements arrive should definitely be quite feasible whereas right now it is very difficult to accomplish.
We offered solutions by him uping hacking skills but that wasn't good enough, if 1 person is gonna assault a point he needs more than just killing the 1 guy who happens to be spawning to do the same thing!
But read the post, see his entitlement, the guy wants everythimg because he killed more than a logi, who spent the match logiing! |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
282
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:56:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:We offered solutions by him uping hacking skills but that wasn't good enough, if 1 person is gonna assault a point he needs more than just killing the 1 guy who happens to be spawning to do the same thing!
But read the post, see his entitlement, the guy wants everythimg because he killed more than a logi, who spent the match logiing!
Yes, I've seen the OP pulling the KDR card and vehemently disagree with the OPs belief that KDR = player value.
However, I also feel that objective spawning is not something dust should have. Even with hacking to 5 (I currently have 3, btw), that does not mean you will always have enough time to hack the objective since you have to kill the defender(s), run to the objective, begin hacking, and hope that you got there fast enough and they don't get a reduced spawn time.
Edit: This means the defenders are not defeating you through well played tactics. They are defeating you through a nearly guaranteed 2nd, 3rd, etc chance to get revenge.
If to remove objective spawning that means adding more CRUs around objectives, then so be it. Those I can handle ahead of time. Objective spawning I cannot. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
653
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:09:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:We offered solutions by him uping hacking skills but that wasn't good enough, if 1 person is gonna assault a point he needs more than just killing the 1 guy who happens to be spawning to do the same thing!
But read the post, see his entitlement, the guy wants everythimg because he killed more than a logi, who spent the match logiing! Yes, I've seen the OP pulling the KDR card and vehemently disagree with the OPs belief that KDR = player value. However, I also feel that objective spawning is not something dust should have. Even with hacking to 5 (I currently have 3, btw), that does not mean you will always have enough time to hack the objective since you have to kill the defender(s), run to the objective, begin hacking, and hope that you got there fast enough and they don't get a reduced spawn time. This means the defenders are not defeating you through well played tactics. They are defeating you through a nearly guaranteed 2nd, 3rd, etc chance to get revenge. If to remove objective spawning that means adding more CRUs around objectives, then so be it. Those I can handle ahead of time. Objective spawning I cannot.
Then my friend we are on the same page, a scout with a bit of cunning would be capable of quickly taking an entire spot by himslef with a little skill! But still even in these circumstances you could bring an uplink so a squad could jump through and help cap it quicker!
Teamwork will always be less risky than soloing it! Like I said earlier I do believe in the removal of objective spawning but not for the reason the op desired! Objective spawning on the new maps is practically pointless, there are enough cru's to shape the battle without an objective spawn! |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1600
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:49:00 -
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I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2258
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:57:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. And your fixation with some imaginary number in a video game, aka KDR, makes you seem like some 13yr old CoD kid who spends his time telling far better people how L33t he is.... all those 360 no scope pro MGL backflipping asshats suit you well enough Himiko.
I'd rather have a logi at my back any day than your KDR grubbing ass. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1600
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. And your fixation with some imaginary number in a video game, aka KDR, makes you seem like some 13yr old CoD kid who spends his time telling far better people how L33t he is.... all those 360 no scope pro MGL backflipping asshats suit you well enough Himiko. I'd rather have a logi at my back any day than your KDR grubbing ass.
kdr threatens you, eh? Youre smart to pick the logi. People who cant accomplish anything need them, and I would leave your ass on the ground where you belong. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2259
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:14:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:True Adamance wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I hear if you guys end every sentence with an exclamation mark it makes you seem less like a 13 year old. In fact, the more you add the older you seem. And your fixation with some imaginary number in a video game, aka KDR, makes you seem like some 13yr old CoD kid who spends his time telling far better people how L33t he is.... all those 360 no scope pro MGL backflipping asshats suit you well enough Himiko. I'd rather have a logi at my back any day than your KDR grubbing ass. kdr threatens you, eh? Youre smart to pick the logi. People who cant accomplish anything need them, and I would leave your ass on the ground where you belong. I didn't pick the logi. I'm learning to tank, which I picked up two weeks ago and am having fun with. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1600
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:18:00 -
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I wasnt talking about your profession. Context. If you want to lose money tanking i completely support that. Vehicle users are the greatest tear souce. |
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