Just saying mabe u guys are just paying for your KDR..

It really comes down to how good of a tanker you are; if your good you will make isk on the other hand if your bad your one broke mercenary.

could much more easy get a high KD just going sniper.

isn't that a heavy dropsuit?

i guess but CCP addressed this with affirmative action i.e. the new map design.

i run REs on my sniper too.. there are much easier ways topad your K/D then tanking.

What I mean is, a main complaint of tankers seems to be that they can't be expected to grind as infantry because they don't have the SP and prefer to drive tanks. So if there'd be a tank variation that would be an equal non-factor as a dropsuit and equally cheap, you'd be happy?

I've gone 20/0 in a dropship before, and I know of plenty pilots who have done likewise if not better than that, does that mean I'm paying for my K/DR? (It's 1.37 btw) and do you know how I got that score? The enemy team fielded no AV, the only time you will see vehicles get a score like that is in one of two situations, the pilot plays smart making good use of friendly infantry to deal with AV and to protect the tank, that OP thing known as teamwork (OMG right?) and in matches where the red berries don't field AV, those are the only cases where vehicles get high K/DR's.

It's a simple fact that infantry can consistently field high scores at a much better ISK efficiency than a vehicle can, and everyone knows it's true, there's all this focus on the one or two matches where a tank stomps the enemy team, but none on the dozen matches where he's forced to withdraw or gets annihilated by enemy AV, and the even more numerous matches where he gets stomped on repeatedly due to the fact that most if not all of his sp is in vehicles skills and the infantry players get to use him as target practice as a result.

This whole paying for K/DR argument in regard to tanks is a load of BS, if want to have that argument go complain to the proto pub stompers, there the ones padding their K/DR with ISK.

hmm im thinking you did not read the whole thread, mabe check out my thoughts through out this thread.

Just saying mabe u guys are just paying for your KDR..[/quote

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Fair enough, but 5 proto assault deaths is equivalent to 1 decent tank death, in terms of isk, but tankers such as yourself surely do not lose much per match for your 30-40 kills.[/quote


I understand that you'r one of the better tankers void, but within those 5-10 matches where you lose only 1 tank you rack up a huge amount of kills without loss. What I'm trying to say in response to the many 'turrets and hulls cost to much threads' ,is mabe you guys are paying for that KDR.[/quote

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Chill man, i'm not saying nerf anything just the high expense of tanks is directly related to the high KDR that it entails...[/quote

And then on page 3 you change tack to


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Forgive me man, i did not mean to imply that tankers are paying large sums of ISK purely for KDR as opposed to paying for a game style that they enjoy. I am just trying to point out that tanks are destructive and dominating on the battlefield and ( in my opinion) are worth the high cost involved in running one. There needs to be some drawback to running these beasts and i think the high ISK cost is doing a pretty good job of it.

I did, for the majority of the thread you have maintained that tankers pay ISK for their K/DR, here's some examples.


Thats a fair enough view and you should have started with it, would have stopped that knee jerk reaction every tanker got when he read the first page.

Now in my post I pointed out that I've gone 20/0 in a dropship before, now following the logic you used I would be paying ISK to get that many kills since that fit costs 900k ISK. I also pointed out that you will only see scores like that in two situations, where the enemy team is incompetent and doesn't field AV, and when the tanker is running with a squad that works well together and they successfully counter the enemy AV.

Apparently, to care about K/D is to be vanilla assault. Seems that anybody who tries to have fun and use the other things in this game like tanks are roundly criticized and despised.

I did, for the majority of the thread you have maintained that tankers pay ISK for their K/DR, here's some examples.


Thats a fair enough view and you should have started with it, would have stopped that knee jerk reaction every tanker got when he read the first page.

Now in my post I pointed out that I've gone 20/0 in a dropship before, now following the logic you used I would be paying ISK to get that many kills since that fit costs 900k ISK. I also pointed out that you will only see scores like that in two situations, where the enemy team is incompetent and doesn't field AV, and when the tanker is running with a squad that works well together and they successfully counter the enemy AV.

I could care much less about my KDR. The problem is ISK efficiency and proto AV that can solo a tank in the right hands or if it's on a tower.

As others have stated earlier, infantry can fall back to militia dropsuits and equipment and still have their millions of SP helping them. And I hear that a militia AR can still kill a proto suit.

For tanks though, the militia stuff is absolute crap. They blow up too easily. In fact, militia tanks decrease your ISK efficiency, so we are forced to pay a much higher price to increase our ISK efficiency. While for infantry, it's their choice if they want to pay more for better attributes at a higher cost.

- people tend to go berserk against tanks, yesterday EoN scrubs wasted orbitals to kill me and other scrubs suicided into our redline to get me - won't happen vs dropsuits

I can destroy any tank in under 45 seconds...

HAVs run over games because the playerbase lacks skill and know-how to catch up to sterilizing what's effective

Same for tankers man, anyone can run in militia gear, does not tank related SP improve on a militia tank?

Just saying mabe u guys are just paying for your KDR..

FFS, a KDR is meaningless. Who cares? Oh wait, is the problem that you are having trouble getting your own KDR high enough?

Seriously, a tank should should have a high KDR as it's a tank. If you want tankers to have a lower KDR then HTFU and pull out some AV when you see them.

Oh noes! Why should I have to change my fit? Waaah.

Read the thread derp, i clearly state that it is a tank, and is and should be destructive, and that in exchange for such power you gotta pay big ISK for it.

I also read you saying that tankers are paying for a high KDR.