1)driver drives and operates front turret and tanking modules

2)main gunner operates main turret and turret modules.

3)top gunner is exposed out of the top turret like on an lav.

double tank ehp due to complexity of new tank controls. no more solo tanking.
add in complete lock out on tanks by the owner. when he/she calls it in it is locked completely until he/she unlocks it for crew or it is hacked by the enemy. this allows them to select the position in the tank they want. they can also unlock for squad only or free for all.

add in climbing in and out of vehicles to commit people to the tank crew and not just instant hitch a ride or hide.

vehicle views would have to be tweaked slightly.

driver would get a front view screen only which incorporates his /hers forward turret.

main gunner would have full allround view as the tank driver currently gets while not in turret view. this comes at the expense of having your head out the top of the turret. when in turret mode you are no longer exposed but have only the turret zoom view.

the top gunner is always exposed but has an extended view of the area around the tank. his turret would have a forward shield for shield tanks and an arm shield for arm tanks. he is completely protected from the direction his turret is facing..

the full crew makes the tank very effective when they work together. if 1 is taken out then this effectiveness is reduced. when the tank is in full combat mode then the top gunner is the general allround eyes. if he is taken out then its doen to the main gunner who is now at a reduced visual effectiveness.

this basicly allows players to disable tanks without actually needing to destroy them

So what about lone wolf tankers...

They just dont get to tank anymore, or only have the small turret?

oh and not forgetting we now cant look behind us....

you didnt really think this through now did you?

1. no

2. no

3. no

4. no

5. no

6. no

everything else.... hmm let me think.. ah, no

actually i did, although i have an idea on this so give me a few mins to amend

dude I don't want t have to look for 3 dedicated and good players just to drive a ******* vehicle.

so much hostility. even mention "change" and "tank" in the same sentence and tank drivers lose it lol.

there is a reason why there will always be issues with tanks and its nothing to do with the tanks themselves

so much hostility. even mention "change" and "tank" in the same sentence and tank drivers lose it lol.

there is a reason why there will always be issues with tanks and its nothing to do with the tanks themselves

so much hostility. even mention "change" and "tank" in the same sentence and tank drivers lose it lol.

there is a reason why there will always be issues with tanks and its nothing to do with the tanks themselves

tell that to OP, not me

1)driver drives and operates front turret and tanking modules

2)main gunner operates main turret and turret modules.

3)top gunner is exposed out of the top turret like on an lav.

double tank ehp due to complexity of new tank controls. no more solo tanking.
add in complete lock out on tanks by the owner. when he/she calls it in it is locked completely until he/she unlocks it for crew or it is hacked by the enemy. this allows them to select the position in the tank they want. they can also unlock for squad only or free for all.

add in climbing in and out of vehicles to commit people to the tank crew and not just instant hitch a ride or hide.

vehicle views would have to be tweaked slightly.

driver would get a front view screen only which incorporates his /hers forward turret.

main gunner would have full allround view as the tank driver currently gets while not in turret view. this comes at the expense of having your head out the top of the turret. when in turret mode you are no longer exposed but have only the turret zoom view.

the top gunner is always exposed but has an extended view of the area around the tank. his turret would have a forward shield for shield tanks and an arm shield for arm tanks. he is completely protected from the direction his turret is facing..

the full crew makes the tank very effective when they work together. if 1 is taken out then this effectiveness is reduced. when the tank is in full combat mode then the top gunner is the general allround eyes. if he is taken out then its doen to the main gunner who is now at a reduced visual effectiveness.

this basicly allows players to disable tanks without actually needing to destroy them

I mean, most of the people here want to be able to take the Small Turrets off because it OFFENDS them that there might be someone else using their vehicle while they are.

problem is tanks should have always been squad assets from the get go. biggest mistake CCP made was letting any tom,**** and harry with delusions of grandeur buy and use them. this only made everyone who used them feel they should be able to kill everything solo because they spent all the sp and isk on them.

until tankers get it out of their heads that a tank is for soloing then nothing ccp does is going to fix tanks and your only hurting your own profession by not accepting suggestions even offering constructive criticism on the bad suggestions. it all adds to the bigger picture. simply asking for hp buffs or av nerfs is not going to fix nothing because the core of the tank role is so messed up to start with

I mean, most of the people here want to be able to take the Small Turrets off because it OFFENDS them that there might be someone else using their vehicle while they are.

problem is tanks should have always been squad assets from the get go. biggest mistake CCP made was letting any tom,**** and harry with delusions of grandeur buy and use them. this only made everyone who used them feel they should be able to kill everything solo because they spent all the sp and isk on them.

until tankers get it out of their heads that a tank is for soloing then nothing ccp does is going to fix tanks and your only hurting your own profession by not accepting suggestions even offering constructive criticism on the bad suggestions. it all adds to the bigger picture. simply asking for hp buffs or av nerfs is not going to fix nothing because the core of the tank role is so messed up to start with

problem is tanks should have always been squad assets from the get go. biggest mistake CCP made was letting any tom,**** and harry with delusions of grandeur buy and use them. this only made everyone who used them feel they should be able to kill everything solo because they spent all the sp and isk on them.

until tankers get it out of their heads that a tank is for soloing then nothing ccp does is going to fix tanks and your only hurting your own profession by not accepting suggestions even offering constructive criticism on the bad suggestions. it all adds to the bigger picture. simply asking for hp buffs or av nerfs is not going to fix nothing because the core of the tank role is so messed up to start with

problem is tanks should have always been squad assets from the get go. biggest mistake CCP made was letting any tom,**** and harry with delusions of grandeur buy and use them. this only made everyone who used them feel they should be able to kill everything solo because they spent all the sp and isk on them.

until tankers get it out of their heads that a tank is for soloing then nothing ccp does is going to fix tanks and your only hurting your own profession by not accepting suggestions even offering constructive criticism on the bad suggestions. it all adds to the bigger picture. simply asking for hp buffs or av nerfs is not going to fix nothing because the core of the tank role is so messed up to start with

If a fecking titan in eve uses all his own weapons and modules, then im pretty fecking sure my piddily little tank can also

The support for a tank, is either, good gunners in the aux turrets, or YOU the ******* infantry, preferably both

and regarding offering constructive criticism on your idea, maybe you would have got some, if you had just thought about it, come on, your idea is fecking stupid for reasons already mentioned

you basicly just sh!t on anyone that doesnt role in a corp, or as i said already, maybe you wont have friends online when you are

and as my post above this, you cant trust random blues to main the turrets when 90% of them just want troll you

you are the perfect example of why tanks will never be fixed. me,me,me,me,me. and hostility towards any change that is not a buff

a pod pilot is nothing like a dust merc. a pod pilot is wired directly into his craft. a merc just drives it with his arms and legs. absolutely no comparison there.

also you have it wrong. the tank is there to support the troops on the ground who actually capture stuff to win the fight. not the other way round. another delusion of the tank driver

you gave no reasons why it was bad, oh yes you did, what was it, i cant solo tank with your idea. more me,me,me

as for people not being online to man your vehicle. well congratulations you found a flaw and gave constructive criticism on it. gold star to this guy. we are making progress.

1)Infantry walks and Is tethered to other infantry playrs.

2)Squad leader gives commands and drags around squad.

3)Squadmates cant attack anything without an attack comand on it.

double infantry ehp due to complexity of new playstyle. no more lone wolfing.
add in complete lock out on movement by the owner. when he/she spawns in their controls are locked completely until he/she is given a ralley command. this allows them to select the position we attack. they can also be auto squaded if not in a squad on entryl.

add in weapon prevention to make infantry more diverse rather than AR, Swarms and forge guns rulling the battlefield.

infantry views would have to be tweaked slightly, move the camera 1 foot behind the player aiming at the lower back of the player and make the maximum rendering range 10 meters so they get what dropships are going through.

squad leaderwould get a map view screen only which incorporates his /hers map overview, radar for squaddies disabled

add second in command who has full all round view of their surroundings when squad leader goes down. this comes at the expense of using his weapon while in command. when backing up the squad leader he gets a 15 meter render range and 25% damage boost.

other infantry is always exposed but can ping things for the squad leader to address. they would have a rear shields to prevent flanking manouvers..

the full squad makes the squad leader very effective when they work together. if 1 is taken out then this effectiveness is reduced. when the squad is in full combat mode then the second in command is the general allround eyes. if he is taken out then its doen to your squadmates who are now at a reduced visual effectiveness.

this basicly allows players to disable teamwork without actually needing to destroy it

PS. Increase dropsuit prices to 500k and light weapons to 1 million isk.

what void is trying to say is





NO!


every tanker is against this idea. no offense but you guys are morons.(offense intended).
this idea is not new, original, or going to fix anything, soon(tm) we wont need small turrets at all IMO one less place for idiots to AFK or make a nuisance of them selves. blueberries in your tank is like the catching the plague it's a death sentence. seriously the only good gunners I have ever had have been other tankers.

please stop thinking about the tank as a vehicle(yes that sounds stupid) think about it as a suit(hang on this is going somewhere). it takes a huge SP investment that doesn't transfer benifits to dropsuits gimping tankers as infantry. yet tankers still need to profit because they can't fall back on a free fit that skill bonuses effect. they need maps that don't gimp them further, they need shelter from av and orbitals, believe it or not they are painfully mortal.

imagine it like this if you would, you're in a scout suit on a bowl shaped map with only poor cover and all around you are snipers. hard right? now imagine yourself in the same scenario but somebody else is in charge of your gun.