1)driver drives and operates front turret and tanking modules

2)main gunner operates main turret and turret modules.

3)top gunner is exposed out of the top turret like on an lav.

double tank ehp due to complexity of new tank controls. no more solo tanking.
add in complete lock out on tanks by the owner. when he/she calls it in it is locked completely until he/she unlocks it for crew or it is hacked by the enemy. this allows them to select the position in the tank they want. they can also unlock for squad only or free for all.

add in climbing in and out of vehicles to commit people to the tank crew and not just instant hitch a ride or hide.

vehicle views would have to be tweaked slightly.

driver would get a front view screen only which incorporates his /hers forward turret.

main gunner would have full allround view as the tank driver currently gets while not in turret view. this comes at the expense of having your head out the top of the turret. when in turret mode you are no longer exposed but have only the turret zoom view.

the top gunner is always exposed but has an extended view of the area around the tank. his turret would have a forward shield for shield tanks and an arm shield for arm tanks. he is completely protected from the direction his turret is facing..

the full crew makes the tank very effective when they work together. if 1 is taken out then this effectiveness is reduced. when the tank is in full combat mode then the top gunner is the general allround eyes. if he is taken out then its doen to the main gunner who is now at a reduced visual effectiveness.

this basicly allows players to disable tanks without actually needing to destroy them

dude I don't want t have to look for 3 dedicated and good players just to drive a ******* vehicle.

so much hostility. even mention "change" and "tank" in the same sentence and tank drivers lose it lol.

there is a reason why there will always be issues with tanks and its nothing to do with the tanks themselves

problem is tanks should have always been squad assets from the get go. biggest mistake CCP made was letting any tom,**** and harry with delusions of grandeur buy and use them. this only made everyone who used them feel they should be able to kill everything solo because they spent all the sp and isk on them.

until tankers get it out of their heads that a tank is for soloing then nothing ccp does is going to fix tanks and your only hurting your own profession by not accepting suggestions even offering constructive criticism on the bad suggestions. it all adds to the bigger picture. simply asking for hp buffs or av nerfs is not going to fix nothing because the core of the tank role is so messed up to start with

what void is trying to say is





NO!


every tanker is against this idea. no offense but you guys are morons.(offense intended).
this idea is not new, original, or going to fix anything, soon(tm) we wont need small turrets at all IMO one less place for idiots to AFK or make a nuisance of them selves. blueberries in your tank is like the catching the plague it's a death sentence. seriously the only good gunners I have ever had have been other tankers.

please stop thinking about the tank as a vehicle(yes that sounds stupid) think about it as a suit(hang on this is going somewhere). it takes a huge SP investment that doesn't transfer benifits to dropsuits gimping tankers as infantry. yet tankers still need to profit because they can't fall back on a free fit that skill bonuses effect. they need maps that don't gimp them further, they need shelter from av and orbitals, believe it or not they are painfully mortal.

imagine it like this if you would, you're in a scout suit on a bowl shaped map with only poor cover and all around you are snipers. hard right? now imagine yourself in the same scenario but somebody else is in charge of your gun.

I think a good portion of this is great stuff, especially that tanks are a support and team vehicle like all vehicles are meant to be. The only thing of significance that I have no complaint with CCP is on whether the gunner is exposed or not. There are several tanks that in current application do not expose those gunners, but I do hope when the vehicle update comes, these solo HAV users will be addressed or at least encouraged to operate with their squad/team. Even if they are operating solo within their vehicle.

you are the perfect example of why tanks will never be fixed. me,me,me,me,me. and hostility towards any change that is not a buff

a pod pilot is nothing like a dust merc. a pod pilot is wired directly into his craft. a merc just drives it with his arms and legs. absolutely no comparison there.

also you have it wrong. the tank is there to support the troops on the ground who actually capture stuff to win the fight. not the other way round. another delusion of the tank driver

you gave no reasons until now why it was bad, oh yes you did, what was it, i cant solo tank with your idea. more me,me,me

as for people not being online to man your vehicle. well congratulations you found a flaw and gave constructive criticism on it. gold star to this guy. we are making progress.

2 and well the top gunner is needed. to be honest this would only work with squad locking which we don't and have and still might not even come in 1.6. look at PS2 with the harassers, works just fine, but that also have great cost vs worth in vehicles, something we don't have in dust. their vehicle cost make sense for their game, our is just random number thrown together.

[tanks for WP

Support.

Unfortunately, I knew how the community would react to this, since I suggested it several times in the past.
No matter how much sense it makes, they think that a high price tag justifies being able to go solo.

It doesn't. Price = potential effectiveness; not base effectiveness.