So 3% resistance to everything but turrets and other heavies? No bueno. How about you guys start running with logis like you used to do?

Well i do mostly run with Logis. They can only heal you however.

Fair enough.

I don't run heavy suits, so I really don't know how it is. But I know if I see a heavy out in the opened that bastard is mine! Heavies seem to be best for holding down an area (objective, outpost, ect). My problem with resistance increases is the heavy will still be a sitting duck out in the open (where it's not suppose to be super effective), but it would start approaching the line of OP in the area of holding ground (its intended role).

Fair enough.

I don't run heavy suits, so I really don't know how it is. But I know if I see a heavy out in the opened that bastard is mine! Heavies seem to be best for holding down an area (objective, outpost, ect). My problem with resistance increases is the heavy will still be a sitting duck out in the open (where it's not suppose to be super effective), but it would start approaching the line of OP in the area of holding ground (its intended role).

That's all the heavy needs!
Maybe add it as a new skill in "Dropsuit Upgrades"
Or make it a bonus as part of the "Amarr Heavy Dropsuits" Skill
Hey you could even just make it a standard bonus for every Heavy dropsuit
Obviously there are many things to consider before implementing this no matter which route you take but hey thats your job

BTW Dust 514 is a fantastic game, congratulations. You guys probably dont hear that enough (especially on the forums lol)

My remote explosives will still kill you.

What the heavy needs is less running around in the open and more hanging out near cover/enclosed spaces.

But that won't happen. I will continue seeing HMG heavies running around in the open areas of Manus Peak or the bridge map etc, where I will continue to gun them down with a TAR. And at first they will fire back, but then as I get them into armor while I'm still at 80% shields, they will try to run away. But they won't make it. Because they just don't get the class they chose to play as.

And then they will come here to post threads about heavies needing some love. And I will smile as I read them.

What the heavy needs is less running around in the open and more hanging out near cover/enclosed spaces.

But that won't happen. I will continue seeing HMG heavies running around in the open areas of Manus Peak or the bridge map etc, where I will continue to gun them down with a TAR. And at first they will fire back, but then as I get them into armor while I'm still at 80% shields, they will try to run away. But they won't make it. Because they just don't get the class they chose to play as.

And then they will come here to post threads about heavies needing some love. And I will smile as I read them.

Not entire maps no, but there are the outposts and facilities and bunker buildings where HMGs and shotguns dominate. The new maps in particular are very CQC friendly around the objectives.

Not entire maps no, but there are the outposts and facilities and bunker buildings where HMGs and shotguns dominate. The new maps in particular are very CQC friendly around the objectives.

So on manus peak, heavies are just expected to wait at A or B, or hope a guy in a dropship, turns up and doesn't get shot out of the sky?

However consider this, a new type of plate heavy only provides a little less than current plates, but has a special effect.

Resistance of Armour increases per shot that hits the heavy, does that make sense?

No i think the topic name is really how it should be. It's the most logical and effective

So on manus peak, heavies are just expected to wait at A or B, or hope a guy in a dropship, turns up and doesn't get shot out of the sky?

If they want to avoid getting killed by even the worst player in the other team because he's got a gun with a longer range, then yes, heavies should stay near cover/buildings/bunkers.

You can't pick a class with the highest HP in the game and a gun that is a veritable bullet hose at short range and expect it to be good in a long range combat situation. I play an assault armed with a TAR, and I stay the hell away from CQC friendly areas and I do extremely well. Because I stay away from CQC areas.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

That's all the heavy needs!
Maybe add it as a new skill in "Dropsuit Upgrades"
Or make it a bonus as part of the "Amarr Heavy Dropsuits" Skill
Hey you could even just make it a standard bonus for every Heavy dropsuit
Obviously there are many things to consider before implementing this no matter which route you take but hey thats your job

BTW Dust 514 is a fantastic game, congratulations. You guys probably dont hear that enough (especially on the forums lol)

What the heavy needs is less running around in the open and more hanging out near cover/enclosed spaces.

But that won't happen. I will continue seeing HMG heavies running around in the open areas of Manus Peak or the bridge map etc, where I will continue to gun them down with a TAR. And at first they will fire back, but then as I get them into armor while I'm still at 80% shields, they will try to run away. But they won't make it. Because they just don't get the class they chose to play as.

And then they will come here to post threads about heavies needing some love. And I will smile as I read them.

Having it as it's own new skill would defeat the purpose, by making it accessible to everyone.

either small arms or explosions. one or the other

Im not saying it should be able to long range, but it should at least be able to survive closing the gap a little, its current lack of speed is too much for the health it has!!

Heavies should be able to be at the front line as well!

Both

It seems that heavies want to be able to take massive punishment, and I'm fine with that.

When I think of a heavy, I think of the Heavies in Killzone. They can take a stupid amount of damage. They can deal out a stupid amount of damage. But these enemies are balanced with a weak spot (fuel tanks on their back) and slow turning speed.

I think our heavies should be more like this. They could take only 30% damage from any light weapons, grenades, and sidearms (excluding the Plasma Cannon), but their backpack could be their weak point, and when they are shot there they take 150-200% damage from weapons like the AR, Sniper Rifle, ScR, Shotgun, SMG, ect... They would also still take the same amount of damage from vehicle mounted turrets (because that is another issue for a different time and place), but be very resistant to small arms fire.

This would require their turning speed to be nerfed to what it used to be(if not slower) so someone like a scout can get around them and place a shotgun round in their back for a OHK. This would make heavier the slaughter machines they want to be, while making them easier to kill for people that know to get around them for an easy kill. They might even need to be slower than they already are for this to be balanced.

TL;DR Make heavies more like the heavies in Killzone.

What the heavy needs is less running around in the open and more hanging out near cover/enclosed spaces.

But that won't happen. I will continue seeing HMG heavies running around in the open areas of Manus Peak or the bridge map etc, where I will continue to gun them down with a TAR. And at first they will fire back, but then as I get them into armor while I'm still at 80% shields, they will try to run away. But they won't make it. Because they just don't get the class they chose to play as.

And then they will come here to post threads about heavies needing some love. And I will smile as I read them.

Something like this would actually be quite balanced. I don't think they would need to be slower, or have less turn speed. If you are able to sneak up on a Heavy even now, with a MLT Shotty and no skills, 9/10 times that heavy is going down. Sneaking up on does not equate to running circles around. You should never be able to simpley strafe in circles around any opponent.

So 3% resistance to everything but turrets and other heavies? No bueno. How about you guys start running with logis like you used to do?

I like this idea. This thread is now General John Ripper approved.

But I want this to affect all classes... not just heavies...

I always love these kind of quotes. Yes the role you spent your Sp should be limited to 20% of the engagements on any map limiting your fun factor to minimal. However if you try to play" your role" any other way you get out ranged in the open.

First off this is a sandbox style game and who determined our role was to camp hallways Boring!? Honestly I hardly ever camp hallways cause most good players know how to throw grenades and spam mass drivers. Hence the OP's request to increase our resistance to Explosives.

Yes you can play in open areas it just takes some awareness to get from a to b or like most take a jeep, bring an AR friend to cover the open areas. The hmg suit combo needs something to be feared again.

I have mostly switched to AR and I tear up heavies in 1v 1 all day long even in CQC so I laugh at these post's too.

Their turn speed would have to be reduced for this to work. If this were implemented a heavy would be almost unkillable if they are facing you, but they would go down quickly if you were behind them. Their weak point would be the downside of using a heavy suit, a slow turn speed would be needed to make the weak point reachable for an shotgun user. A shotgun scout should be able to dodge around a heavy at extremely close ranges and kill a heavy, because shotgun scouts should be able to do that, against all enemies.