The theme of 1.6 will be stuff.

Why are they so collusiveness about 1.6? IS it the PS4 announcement? A expansion? PVE? Just dreaming here...

hopefully they will bring back chromozone's weapon balancing, everyone used everything because it all worked, now everyone uses rifles and not much else. why? because its the only thing that works. i cant be as accurate as an AR with a mass driver at over 100m away. CCP has justtaken so much fun out of the game. Agreed they have done some positive stuff too graphics and maps etc.

1.5: vehicle rebalance + new weapons (confirmed)
1.6: A continuation of the vehicle re-balance. (Pretty sure)
That other new outpost?
New heavy? (With new weps?)

hopefully they will bring back chromozone's weapon balancing, everyone used everything because it all worked, now everyone uses rifles and not much else. why? because its the only thing that works. i cant be as accurate as an AR with a mass driver at over 100m away. CCP has justtaken so much fun out of the game. Agreed they have done some positive stuff too graphics and maps etc.

1.5 is not like for another 2-3 weeks...

Yes but if 1.5 is (theoretic) in the 41th week, why not give us the patchnotes a little earlier then a week?

Because its not finalized.

If the work on patches was done in two weeks, you would get patch notes every two weeks and a new release every two weeks.

But you don't. You are getting them every month.

Dear CCP, in 1.4 you did a lot of things right (even the AA), and I would like to see progress going in the same direction. It would be exiting to see new Heavy suits as well as a new weapons. So I was wondering, when we can expect to see the whole patch notes about 1.5? Maybe in the 40th week? Or even at the 39th?

Also if it's possible, could you give us a hint about the main theme of 1.6?

Greetings

You know we are getting weapons in .5 don't you!!

I have read that we will get weapon(s) in 1.5. Still why not mention it that new weapons and suits are exiting?

PS: one exclamation mark is enough.

magsec is going to be a heavy weapon?

OK. But at least they look god. http://i.imgur.com/flTzL2v.png

Indeed they do, that precision rifle, is that a minmatar sniper?

It looks rusty so, why not?

should a MD hit 100m away?

Jebus, we are like 15 days since release of 1.4... Many are still digesting the changes and people are asking for 1.5! I guess they are the types that want to know what they are getting for next xmas the day after santa has been!

1.5: vehicle rebalance + new weapons (confirmed)
1.6: A continuation of the vehicle re-balance. (Pretty sure)
That other new outpost?
New heavy? (With new weps?)

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicles and Weapons re-balance were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicles and Weapons re-balance were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicles and Weapons re-balance were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Some of us have been so impressed with .4 we are now pumped for .5 .6 .7, its justmso exciting, and besides NEW WEAPONS!!

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

LOL, guys, calm down.

He was just joking. (^.-)

1.5 is the vehicle patch, they will take several modules out of the game and provide us with a new vehicle experience, consisting of adjusted vehicles and AV weapons plus a small amount of core vehicle modules

Wait for the patch notes and you'll see.

LOL, guys, calm down.

He was just joking. (^.-)

1.5 is the vehicle patch, they will take several modules out of the game and provide us with a new vehicle experience, consisting of adjusted vehicles and AV weapons plus a small amount of core vehicle modules

Wait for the patch notes and you'll see.

Indeed they do, that precision rifle, is that a minmatar sniper?

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

should a MD hit 100m away?

LOL, guys, calm down.

He was just joking. (^.-)

1.5 is the vehicle patch, they will take several modules out of the game and provide us with a new vehicle experience, consisting of adjusted vehicles and AV weapons plus a small amount of core vehicle modules

Wait for the patch notes and you'll see.

LOL What kind of question is that?

Effective AR range in today's world is out to 300m. Why is it less than 100 on Dust?

LOL What kind of question is that?

Effective AR range in today's world is out to 300m. Why is it less than 100 on Dust?

Yea looks like it, and it looks badass, I think it might be a combination between a sniper rifle and assault rifle that shoots faster precise long range rounds but with reduced damage. Not talking about the tac assault rifle :P.

LOL What kind of question is that?

Effective AR range in today's world is out to 300m. Why is it less than 100 on Dust?

Jebus, we are like 15 days since release of 1.4... Many are still digesting the changes and people are asking for 1.5! I guess they are the types that want to know what they are getting for next xmas the day after santa has been!

It was confirmed in IRC that the rebalancing is being put back... please if you can see a joke share it lol

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Because it's rebalancing vehicles and AV. They're not just changing a few values as they relate to vehicles. They're going to be adding, removing, and changing both skills and modules. We also don't know if we're going to get more hulls. Every single pilot also wants the vehicle powergrid skill back, and we don't yet know if CCP will give it back to us.

Turrets are also incredibly expensive. The most expensive large PRO turrets cost near 1mil ISK each.

I don't have a clue how they're balancing AV, but some stuff needs damage roll backs. Why does an AV grenade do around 2000 damage each to armor, yet infantry complained about the contact grenades and they got nerfed into the ground. Double standards are ridiculously abundant on here.

The barrel looks too short to be a sniper rifle, but it does definitely look like it will have some long range capabilities

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Because its not real life dumb dumb

Erm the range and accuracy is over 100m on Dust. Plus in real life ARs are not that accurate as they are on here

Because the real world is a tad bit larger then the maps we play on?

If i can fly a ship till i reach the upper troposphere, why is the ceiling height so low in Dust?

Actually your getting nothing, so me and my swarm launcher will see you on the battlefield yeah!

......................... what kinda response is that? It should feel like a rifle. Rifles in WWII had range markers in miles.

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Nice crutch launcher you got there. Do you aim it, or does the game take care of that for you?

Maybe dropsuits aren't capable of going out of atmosphere.

Maybe dropsuits aren't capable of going out of atmosphere.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

CCP / Devs,

Can we have something concrete about vehicle rebalancing please? A lot of us would like to know what direction you're taking on the matter. We've been asking for some work on dropships since closed beta but they still don't seem to have changed in terms of survivability or usefulness since then. Tanks have received some good work I think. I don't use LAVs anymore because of the ISK cost but the specialisation are an improvement IMO.

I think a lot of people were pretty excited about the prospect of finally seeing some rebalancing work so even if you're not releasing these changes yet can we have some feedback on what issues you faced that prompted the decision to push back the time-frames? This is a unique game in the level of interaction between player and devs and I think most of us would like to to have a bit more of that for this particular topic please.

I let the game do it, why wouldn't I, its not like I should have to put in any more effort than you right?

Maybe dropsuits aren't capable of going out of atmosphere.

Yes they are, in that old fanfesf into video, how do you think the mercs survived outerspace, holding their breath?

Because my railgun, blaster and missile turrets have homing ability.

......................... what kinda response is that? It should feel like a rifle. Rifles in WWII had range markers in miles.

If they're not happy with the results of the playtesting, it means they don't KNOW the ******* direction they're taking on the matter so there IS nothing concrete to PROVIDE.

Whats the matter you don't like homing rockets, homing in? Awww!!

Pushing back a feature/changes your not happy with... absolutly fine. right thing to do.

Puching back the most looked for changes in a patch and only telling us in an offhand remark... not cool.

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

Just wanted to stop by and thank the players in advance for handling this respectfully and for recognizing that this was made to ensure that these particular features arrive in good shape.

I know plenty are licking their lips and sharpening their knives and declaring "****storm time!!" but the reality is that there's nothing to be gained here by being indignant about a roadbump in development and acting outraged that a tentative deadline was missed.

Personally, I see this as a huge opportunity to take the next month and give constructive criticism on the stats of the vehicle changes and weapons to be added, which we'll have much more advanced notice of than usual. This is a crossroads - we can spend the next several weeks bitching and moaning at the devs doing the hard work, and give them less of a reason to share information with us, or we can help them deliver a quality 1.6 release and establish a pattern of trust so that they continue to share their plans as early as possible.

Link to a video I can watch late tonight?

There is nothing that you can say right now to cheer me up.

No vehicle balance is bad news, but no new weapons are even worse for me :-(.

I feel like a sad panda.

There is nothing that you can say right now to cheer me up.

On the plus side... taking an extra month to get the vehicles and weapons right means they should kick ass on release and be exactly what we've been asking for?

Assuming CCP shares the weapon stats and vehicle balance changes with us and gives us the next month to provide quality feedback than yes. If they wait another few weeks before sharing that info, it'll be a hugely wasted opportunity. We're certainly working on our end to encourage them to release this info ASAP.

Just wanted to stop by and thank the players in advance for handling this respectfully and for recognizing that this was made to ensure that these particular features arrive in good shape.

I know plenty are licking their lips and sharpening their knives and declaring "****storm time!!" but the reality is that there's nothing to be gained here by being indignant about a roadbump in development and acting outraged that a tentative deadline was missed.

Personally, I see this as a huge opportunity to take the next month and give constructive criticism on the stats of the vehicle changes and weapons to be added, which we'll have much more advanced notice of than usual. This is a crossroads - we can spend the next several weeks bitching and moaning at the devs doing the hard work, and give them less of a reason to share information with us, or we can help them deliver a quality 1.6 release and establish a pattern of trust so that they continue to share their plans as early as possible.

On the plus side... taking an extra month to get the vehicles and weapons right means they should kick ass on release and be exactly what we've been asking for?

It's not that, it's the insane crutch that they are. Near-alpha damage from 3 PRO volleys? That's balanced? It's one person!

Guys, please see this thread. I'm not going to lock this one, but I will ask you to please post only about the stuff still coming in this thread. Keep discussion about the pushed back features to the other thread if you can.

Thanks.

HAHAHAHA that's a good one. Please tell me you're not serious.

Hey guys

We'd love to provide you with patch notes weeks in advance, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread quite often features aren't finalized until closer to the release date.

For example, during playtest we didn't feel the Vehicle rebalance and new weapons were quite ready for 1.5 so they've been pushed back, however other features will be seeing full release (squad finder, new WP rewards, updated NPE, bug fixes, etc).

Full patch notes/Feedback Threads to come next week, will keep you in the loop as soon as we get any more info. :)

1.5: vehicle rebalance + new weapons (confirmed)
1.6: A continuation of the vehicle re-balance. (Pretty sure)
That other new outpost?
New heavy? (With new weps?)

Wow. You must have experience doing PR for Japanese whaling companies or something. Nice. The "Community" is going to ***** forever about everything, it's the nature of the beast regardless of CCP's actions granted, but yeah... nice PR.

In other news, an entire class of player literally just deleted Dust.

"Tentative deadline"?

"Establish a pattern of trust?"

+1 I loled.

[EDIT: Had this post open and was writing before I saw CCP Logibro's post. Will not post further.]

So 1.5 = **** all is being done or changing? OR have I got it all wrong.

No vehicle rebalance, no new weapons?
So what we just get some war points for some tasks. Great. Still have scotty issues, and half of my corp members being kicked out of the squad or game.

I hope I have got it wrong, otherwise I can see this game dying a death. There is no progress going on here, and if we cant see any progress, people are not going to stick around. People are already leaving.

You know what , get out of here Heinrich. No one believes CCP any more.

Personally I don't give a flying fedo whether you believe or trust CCP or not. All I'm asking for is for players to be helpful and respectful, which I think is a perfectly reasonable request.

Just leaving this here:

RKKR wrote:

and the answer is as vague as it can be again...

Like 1.4 was supposed to be for infantry and 1.5 for vehicles?

I wouldn't be perplexed if it is going to be 1.7. Whoever stills gets exciting about this kind of updates is a fool.

You wanna do a better job mate, build your own game!
Developing isn't as easy as you think!

Hahahaha you are a fool for thinking that developing is a 1-man operation, I also wonder where I stated that the DEVs sucked in that message? It's our right to judge this fame as not-in-beta-anymore if they decided to go for a release on a lame date.

But to help you out, it's more aimed at their communication .

See you later fanboooi.

Communication was fine, they changed their minds, I am aware deving isn't a one man job, because I am studying to be a dev.
But if continue to do nothing but spew hate every time something happens what do you expect?

Now I'm a hater huh? I'm just telling how it is (please point out what was wrong with that message I wrote) and I could only see you hating me for putting that post up (again).
CCP probably has no idea where they are going, they are constantly changing their minds...that's why you'll never see a detailed post about their near-future plans or answering specific questions from people on these forums.

I hope you will take your time in the beta-phase to finally test everything out/adjust things when you do finally become a developer. Good luck with the studies.

Yes they are, in that old fanfesf into video, how do you think the mercs survived outerspace, holding their breath?

Titainfall Destiny watchdogs planetside 2 all on pc or ps4 I just don't see why I should keep investing in dust anymore the is just mountains of evidence they can't deliver a good shooter experice.

That said the social side they can do very well so WoD should be awsome :-)

Just wanted to stop by and thank the players in advance for handling this respectfully and for recognizing that this was made to ensure that these particular features arrive in good shape.

I know plenty are licking their lips and sharpening their knives and declaring "****storm time!!" but the reality is that there's nothing to be gained here by being indignant about a roadbump in development and acting outraged that a tentative deadline was missed.

Personally, I see this as a huge opportunity to take the next month and give constructive criticism on the stats of the vehicle changes and weapons to be added, which we'll have much more advanced notice of than usual. This is a crossroads - we can spend the next several weeks bitching and moaning at the devs doing the hard work, and give them less of a reason to share information with us, or we can help them deliver a quality 1.6 release and establish a pattern of trust so that they continue to share their plans as early as possible.