That's funny. :) It is the mouse, if it would be DS3 I would have answered my own request, which to date still nobody has by the way...

For proof you can just refer to 1:27 for example. I don't think you can turn that fast with sticks...

For proof you can just refer to 1:27 for example. I don't think you can turn that fast with sticks...

Or look at when you go to hack the objectives. It shows E instead of O.

And that prove what ? you can use the mouse / keyboard and DS3 at the same time, in fact i do the same myself.

Is not vertical movement in you crosshair, that alone tells me that is not a mouse. Also you strafing as you shooting instead of tracking the target, your reloading and weapon switching is just to fast to be a mouse, is also not continuity in your horizontal aim, and your crosshair is clearly tracking the target as you strafing ( Aim-assist )

How ignorant are you man. It's quite obvious he's using a mouse. If you can't see that then you're either 1. the biggest dumbass on these forums or 2. Trolling.

I don't know what mouse you using, but horizontal aiming without vertical movement is IMPOSSIBLE with a mouse.

Haha, I was just typing about how awful that looked for a mouse when I realized that you were definitely on pad.

If that is a mouse, and you have to strafe aim to beat people, that's a clear indication of poor mouse controls. Nice try.

Poor mouse controls, yes. :) It still works, and I'll leave it to the reader's imagination what "good mouse controls" are going to accomplish at this game.

As for your slant of strafe aiming, that's a bit ignorant. It's by far the most stable method of tracking with a mouse, so you would be silly not to deploy it, whenever your target is cooperative enough to just move in one direction... There is plenty of aim tracking in the video as well.

horizontal aiming without vertical movement is IMPOSSIBLE with a mouse.

Nice troll... that is not a mouse. That is the DS3 with the aim-assist. How stupid you think we are ?

Haha, I was just typing about how awful that looked for a mouse when I realized that you were definitely on pad.

If that is a mouse, and you have to strafe aim to beat people, that's a clear indication of poor mouse controls. Nice try.

Poor mouse controls, yes. :) It still works, and I'll leave it to the reader's imagination what "good mouse controls" are going to accomplish at this game.

As for your slant of strafe aiming, that's a bit ignorant. It's by far the most stable method of tracking with a mouse, so you would be silly not to deploy it, whenever your target is cooperative enough to just move in one direction... There is plenty of aim tracking in the video as well.

Just have a look at how I struggle to move the crosshair on target in this fairly typical match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQ (yes, recorded on a toaster)

Clearly mouse controls are completely unusable. Stick users should not get any aim assist whatsoever, and also mouse users should start with extra HP to make up for the imbalance!




Seriously though, I wonder sometimes if I'm playing a different game than all these mouse QQers on the forums, because I have no complaints about the mouse controls whatsoever (all shoddy aiming in the video is solely my own responsibility).

I can only imagine that either their mouse doesn't work well with the game/PS3, they've never been good with a mouse to begin with, or they are confusing the effects of low FPS with bad mouse controls. The latter is admittedly really annoying, and makes accurate aiming close to impossible when it happens, but hopefully it's a temporary problem (PS4 to the rescue?) and it isn't always an issue (hint: avoid the large outposts when possible).


Now, I expect to get a lot of flak for this both from mouse users because I dispute that we got any "disadvantage", and from DS3 users who just generally hate me for using this "crutch". All I can say is that I really appreciate that CCP let's us play a console game with KB/M (I really can't be bothered with gaming PC anymore), but I can't do it in good conscience without speaking out against some of the whiney nonsense that is being spewed out by fellow mousers. Now you can make up your own mind, and I can go back to enjoying the game...

There's plenty of awful aim tracking in this video, followed up by strafe aiming without moving the mouse. Good example? 5:19, fight on the roof. You blow your entire load at the guy while trying to track, then opt to give up aiming all together, and run along with him.

If it is a mouse (it isn't), you should be able to track, which you can't because m/kb has a pretty significant case of input delay. That's the leading cause of the m/kb players (well, the real ones) complaining that its difficult to track.

Good mouse controls are the ones that enable to you aim with your mouse, not forcing you to resort to your keyboard.

I always strafe aim, he just moved so fast that I had to adjust my aim a lot and screwed it up badly. Tracking isn't easy (especially while being shot), but it wasn't the game's fault, it was mine.

I'm not "forced to resort to the keyboard", it's just the most effective way of tracking target, and this includes all the FPS I played competitively on the PC as well (from Quake 2 onwards).

dang, I don't think you even used the gun sights did you? Did you hit this well before the aim assist tweak?

Mouse game-play ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUByjCvKT0

Observer the crosshair movement every time this guy shoots.

Trollololollllol

Uhm... The very first kill is ADS, as are most of them really. Why would I use ADS when I'm close enough that the accuracy doesn't matter though? It makes no difference.

1.4 improved my aim quite a bit because I can now use a sensible sensitivity rather than being stuck with super fast hip fire and ridiculously slow ADS. I believe the only ones having difficulties with that change are the ones who haven't adjusted by toning their sensitivity down (drastically).

Had to do exactly this. Took about... 2 games... to get used. Having played various FPS games on the PC for about 15+ years makes accommodating to different controls pretty easy. Yeah it's not as fluid as Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament, Quake, etc., but still way easier (for me) than using a DS3.

Turn on mouse smoothness and play with the settings, it's the closest I've came to having 1.3 aim