For proof you can just refer to 1:27 for example. I don't think you can turn that fast with sticks...

Poor mouse controls, yes. :) It still works, and I'll leave it to the reader's imagination what "good mouse controls" are going to accomplish at this game.

As for your slant of strafe aiming, that's a bit ignorant. It's by far the most stable method of tracking with a mouse, so you would be silly not to deploy it, whenever your target is cooperative enough to just move in one direction... There is plenty of aim tracking in the video as well.

Just have a look at how I struggle to move the crosshair on target in this fairly typical match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQ (yes, recorded on a toaster)

Clearly mouse controls are completely unusable. Stick users should not get any aim assist whatsoever, and also mouse users should start with extra HP to make up for the imbalance!




Seriously though, I wonder sometimes if I'm playing a different game than all these mouse QQers on the forums, because I have no complaints about the mouse controls whatsoever (all shoddy aiming in the video is solely my own responsibility).

I can only imagine that either their mouse doesn't work well with the game/PS3, they've never been good with a mouse to begin with, or they are confusing the effects of low FPS with bad mouse controls. The latter is admittedly really annoying, and makes accurate aiming close to impossible when it happens, but hopefully it's a temporary problem (PS4 to the rescue?) and it isn't always an issue (hint: avoid the large outposts when possible).


Now, I expect to get a lot of flak for this both from mouse users because I dispute that we got any "disadvantage", and from DS3 users who just generally hate me for using this "crutch". All I can say is that I really appreciate that CCP let's us play a console game with KB/M (I really can't be bothered with gaming PC anymore), but I can't do it in good conscience without speaking out against some of the whiney nonsense that is being spewed out by fellow mousers. Now you can make up your own mind, and I can go back to enjoying the game...

Poor mouse controls, yes. :) It still works, and I'll leave it to the reader's imagination what "good mouse controls" are going to accomplish at this game.

As for your slant of strafe aiming, that's a bit ignorant. It's by far the most stable method of tracking with a mouse, so you would be silly not to deploy it, whenever your target is cooperative enough to just move in one direction... There is plenty of aim tracking in the video as well.

there players, same as you. I have no idea who you are btw..

Anyone that steps into a consol fps from the PC world can see its full people who miss lots,. Dual sticks suck, period..

I see vids like this all the time, Its a dime a dozen. still, hats off to him for making it,.

Oh an strifing with the target will free up the mouse for finer aiming to land head shots. I think consol gamers should watch pro's on twitch tv more.

0:04 you can't turn that fast with ds3.

If you ever end up with a double 360 degrees turn, your sensitivity is insanely high... And that would explain why you are confused by my video. My sensitivity is 38cm/360, which means I have to use more than the entire length of my mouse mat to make one full rotation... That is also why you never see me turn continuously for more than 180 degrees or so at most (and even that is rare), because I always have to pick up the mouse in-between. I made a long post about the benefits of low sense in DUST before.

As for DS3 being able to turn that fast or faster, I am pretty sure that is false. But anybody could easily prove it by making a video of it.

First off, I believe the videos shown are probably done with mouse aim and not sixaxis (and I say "sixaxis" because I still have a working pre-DualShock PS3 controller). I won't say definitively that it can't be sixaxis aim, but it looks more likely to be mouse aim from where I'm sitting.

In spite of that, though, I'm going to mention that with max sensitivity and a max-speed turn, sixaxis players CAN turn that fast. Many players don't use max sensitivity, so they can't hit that kind of turn speed instantly, and rarely keep up a high-speed turn long enough for the acceleration to pick them all the way up (and I still want acceleration to be optional).

And if it is possible for mouse turning to be faster than sixaxis, then CCP need to fix it, because that's not a good thing.

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Also, there are two advantages to mouse aim:...
2. Precision aim. This is balanced by the sixaxis allowing more precise movement, so if the first point is addressed, things SHOULD be close enough to balanced and people can stop complaining.