BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

Just Lol.

no, im not upset, im calling bullshit for everyone that says the swarms got nerfed.

BULL ******* ***

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

I did. Scrub? Nah, at least I ain't in a starter corp. We got 0.3s faster firing, but lost 2 shots per clip. Seems like a nerf to the lone AV'er to me. Used to fire 5 then reload, now it's 3 then a 4.5s reload. Of course it's a slight buff to av teams, but all vehicle pilots always complain about 1 guy killing em.

By the way, I run Pythons, (bad) gunloggi's and scout suits. When I complain about swarm nerf, it's only to correct people, I kinda like it.

no, im not upset, im calling bullshit for everyone that says the swarms got nerfed.

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

If you don't know who Void Echo is, you're the real scrub.

Of course, any random whiny tanker in an NPC corp makes everyone else look like scrubs.

If the other 2 guys didn't make the point clearly enough ...

I HAVE A PROTO TANK !! ... I have complex Armour Plates AND Complex Armour Repairer on my Proto Amarr Logistics suit. -- it's armour TANKED and it's all proto

A HAV IS NOT A TANK

I did. Scrub? Nah, at least I ain't in a starter corp. We got 0.3s faster firing, but lost 2 shots per clip. Seems like a nerf to the lone AV'er to me. Used to fire 5 then reload, now it's 3 then a 4.5s reload. Of course it's a slight buff to av teams, but all vehicle pilots always complain about 1 guy killing em.

By the way, I run Pythons, (bad) gunloggi's and scout suits. When I complain about swarm nerf, it's only to correct people, I kinda like it.

Confirming SL got nerfed into the ground. The faster firing is a myth

If you don't believe me, then take some time to check them yourself. 1.4 lock on time, 0.3 fire interval, 4.5 reload time, 3 round clip vs. 1.2 lock on time, 2 fire interval, 4 reload time, 5 round clip.

tell that to my tank that got killed by a swarm firing twice as fast

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

The clip was 6 before 1.4 ... 4 as standard + 10% per level of operation
AND the reload time was 4.5 before 1.4 and is still the same.

Lets look at the full cycle ... This means from beginning first lock to the beginning of the seventh lock, since before 1.4 there was 1 reload and after there are 2 reloads to get to the same point and begin the cycle again.

before 1.4 would be 21.7

and since 1.4 it's now 18.9 - this is while the skill isn't working.

So that's 2.8 seconds difference ... less than half a second per volley average.

The Problem isn't the increase in DPS ... it's the FACT that most vehicles in the game right now can't stand up to much more than the initial three vollies, which now hit much quicker than before.

It's become a Burst variant shall we say giving damage in quicker bursts but with more gaps.

The problem is the same as it's been for quite some time now ... That proto vehicles aren't available to withstand proto AV ... if you want to moan about anything, moan about that !

Your suit HAS tank, it is not A tank.

HAVs are obviously the equivalent of a tank such as a T-90 or a Challenger II or an M1. Your snide remark is not clever. Tankers regularly refer to HAVs as tanks, because they ARE tanks.

I don't call in vehicles that often anymore.... im skilled into gallente assault so im using that, cost effective and I make profit with it.

if I were in charge of the vehicle team, vehicles wouldn't be in the crisis they are now

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

*claps*

So you are going to play as a SOLDIER in a FPS!?
nice, i hope you enjoy it.

I hope you never have to fight one 6500+ EHP tank with hardeners and a good tanker that you just cant kill, and keeps spawn klilling you, over and over and over again, and doesnt matter how many times you shoot at him,he regenerates faster than the damage you are dealing....

See you around brave soldier

*salutes*

I dunno what planet you live on but the clip size used to be 3 without operation skill and with operation at 5 the clip size was 5. Don't try to tell me something else as I've been using swarms since beta.

EDIT: In fact your whole post is garbage. Except for the burst part.
EDIT2: I actually dunno what game you are playing since there are no proto vehicles in Dust, and there are STD vehicles than can take almost unlimited beating from proto AV, they are called LLAVs.

LOL you have no idea how wrong you are...

I called in a vehicle so I could get away from the battle and regenerate my armor, the guy drove up in a LAV and started shooting..

again, you have no idea how wrong you are

I know when I should run and when I should fight.

How about an out of date Wikia to prove your point wrong ...
http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Swarm_Launchers

Swarms had 4 in the clip since Mordu's Trials ... I don't know what game you've been playing, but if it was this one you haven't been paying attention very well.

It's possible they changed the number in the clip when Uprising came out, I didn't notice since I just skilled them as they've been my primary weapon since part way through E3 after I got bored with my 'I win' Surya button, but I'm sure I had 6 in the clip till now.

I didn't say there were any proto vehicles ... in fact what I said was there aren't any proto vehicles to withstand proto AV ... I didn't say there aren't ANY vehicles that can withstand it ... LLAVs are about where proto HAVs should be, damn difficult to kill solo, but possible with good tactics n a bit of luck.

Calling a vehicle in an area that's not safe? That's on you. The lav soldier caught you with your pants down. Deal with it.