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none of you seem to be able to read, im not complaining about being killed.. im calling bullshit on the people that say swarms got nerfed

none of you seem to be able to read, im not complaining about being killed.. im calling bullshit on the people that say swarms got nerfed

''when im going against a tank and im not driving one, I just leave the battle''

^^^ Yup sounds like you are skilled alright.

No wonder you keep whining vs AV, you dont know what facing a tankfeels like! XD

Void stop trolling, please leave the forums,srsly AHAHHA

none of you seem to be able to read, im not complaining about being killed.. im calling bullshit on the people that say swarms got nerfed

THERE ARE NO ADVANCED OR PROTO TANKS

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

dats the joke

Of course, any random whiny tanker in an NPC corp makes everyone else look like scrubs.

It now takes 14.7 seconds to shoot 6 times with Swarm (reload included), it used to take 16 seconds to shoot 5.
It would take 12.6 seconds to shoot 6 times if the skill was working.

I run swarms, easy peasy, Fire of 2 volley's before the 1st one hits, reload. finish them. They were OP and easy 1.3, in 1.4 nothing has changed. Get up high and control the whole field of vehicles, with one 20-30 Aur weapon. Don't need to skill to proto.

The clip was 6 before 1.4 ... 4 as standard + 10% per level of operation
AND the reload time was 4.5 before 1.4 and is still the same.

Lets look at the full cycle ... This means from beginning first lock to the beginning of the seventh lock, since before 1.4 there was 1 reload and after there are 2 reloads to get to the same point and begin the cycle again.

before 1.4 would be 21.7

and since 1.4 it's now 18.9 - this is while the skill isn't working.

So that's 2.8 seconds difference ... less than half a second per volley average.

The Problem isn't the increase in DPS ... it's the FACT that most vehicles in the game right now can't stand up to much more than the initial three vollies, which now hit much quicker than before.

It's become a Burst variant shall we say giving damage in quicker bursts but with more gaps.

The problem is the same as it's been for quite some time now ... That proto vehicles aren't available to withstand proto AV ... if you want to moan about anything, moan about that !

Probably kicking a dead horse with the lateness of the reply, but its better to correct you, just in case. I'm guessing you don't use swarms much, because you overlooked something.

* Swarm Launcher base lock-on time has been increased to 1.4 from 1.2 and its fire interval has been reduced from 2 to 0.3

The fire interval includes the lock on time. So, using the corrected values -

Pre-1.4
In prime conditions, each shot takes 2 seconds.
5 Shots at 2s each = 10s
4.5s reload = 14.5s
1 more = 16.5s
Meaning 16.5 seconds to fire 6 shots.

1.4
In prime conditions, each shot takes 1.4 seconds to fire, with 3 shots in a clip.
3 x 1.4 = 4.2s then a 4.5s reload = 8.7s
3 more shots = 4.2s, so the grand total is 12.9s for 6 shots

Of course a more realistic time in battle is about 16s for each, because the swarms take time to leave the launcher.

*Edited numbers on pre-1.4, in my head I had a magical 6 shot swarm launcher, now its fixed to have 5 in a clip.

*claps*

So you are going to play as a SOLDIER in a FPS!?
nice, i hope you enjoy it.

I hope you never have to fight one 6500+ EHP tank with hardeners and a good tanker that you just cant kill, and keeps spawn klilling you, over and over and over again, and doesnt matter how many times you shoot at him,he regenerates faster than the damage you are dealing....

See you around brave soldier

*salutes*

Where did you leave the lock on time for pre-1.4 stats?

Swarms had a 5 round clip before 1.4 not 6.

Apparently ... "The fire interval includes the lock on time." ... Which puts his post 1.4 number out by a long shot cos the fire interval is now 0.3 seconds and I certainly don't fire swarms 3 times per second.

@Spec Ops Cipher -- The fire interval is the delay after firing that you can't do ANYTHING ... including running, reloading, changing weapons, starting to lock a target, pretty much anything that's not walking. THAT is why it has been reduced, because 2 seconds was far too long to be put out of action every time you launched swarms.

@jin foxdale -- It's not inside knowledge ... it's simple intelligent deduction ... 1.5 is the vehicle balance pass, which means they will be balanced against both AV and infantry. It would be a waste of a months worth of research, development and coding to balance them without A full spectrum of vehicles. In just the same way it would be a waste to put much effort into balancing what we have now, especially since Marauders and Black Ops HAVs have already been on the market in the past. (and to whoever said you've never killed a proto HAV ... depends how long you've been here ... some of us HAVE ! )
Also jin -- yeah just wait till you get the sound bug (which is still around) and your musscle memory doesn't even have a lock tone to help it forget !


I know my memories bad, but I could have sworn I had 6 ... ohh well they must have nerfed swarms at some point then, cos they definately had 4 base in the clip all through beta n there's no mention of it changing in any of the patch notes, must have happened when Uprising dropped, we got the ammo capacity skill then n I just thought 'great more ammo', didn't go into the details of it really.

After the 1.2s locking time, you used to be unable to do stuff for a further 0.8. Now that the fire interval is insignificant there is no more being stuck after firing swarms, you can do anything immediately afterwards.

unless the lock on stays through multiple shots.

You clearly don't use swarms !

Its a possible future variant of swarms

source !?

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB

BULL ******* ****

my tank just got destroyed by a lone swarmer that shot volleys at twice the speed they used to.

to all you who say they got nerfed..

I say to you.. BULL ******* ****, YOUR JUST A SCRUB