Im serious.

You're acting like there was massive recoil to begin with. I would agree there was some recoil, but to reduce it (hardly) and make overheating quicker is almost pointless. The HMG needed a bullet spread reduction, not recoil reduction.

Are you fuckin kiddin me?!
The new skill is awesome,on lvl 5 there are absolutely no recoil.
Its the best thing that CCP can do with the HMG,im totally love it.

If you ever want to see how the HMG should operate, look at the minigun in the Brutal Doom mod. ADS button controls spool up time which affects range and accuracy and range when you fire, but it's loud enough to alert anyone in proximity. That would be perfect for the HMG with the old operation skill.

you have the slowest overheat of any weapon and 1.4 bumped you from lolHMG to death machine.

Yep, i also have HMG proficiency at 5

recoil? we had recoil in the HMG? i honestly didnt notice it, and why does CCP have to go and change the skills to recoil? none of us heavies even complained about recoil.

Overheating the HMG is still almost impossible (the standard variant,the burst variant is another tale) if youre a decent heavy.
But with the recoil reduction the HMG is actually more accurate against distant (from 30 to 50 meters) targets.

Spread reduction would be great too,but recoil reduction is still helping a lot.

Okay? The old HMG skill was pointless too.

We traded one useless skill for another, surprise~

Not only is the recoil hardley any different, but i also am now limited in my ability to kill multiple people (90-100 less shots before overheat). Make less recoil a sharpshooter skill for hmg if people really want it that badely.

After doing a full read through this post I come to the agreement that you're whiners who want to be a God again.

The Heavy and HMG is just fine for me and many friends alike. As long as I don't go foolishly running into an enemy mob from the front or run over an open field I'm pretty safe.
With the help from a buddy in a dropship (Evolution-7 is one hell of a pilot!) or my own LLAV (which I don't often use for ramming. I prefer driving up close and let my HMG do all the talking.) I get around quite easy.

The heavy could maybe benefit from a HP increase (Because Assaults can get almost the HP of my advanced suits!), but I'm fine with my HP at the time. The faster turning speed and aim assist help a lot when it comes to shooting at pesky moving targets.

Then the HMG: Only during the start of Uprising I was disappointed, but after the damage increase and range increase I'm very satisfied. At the moment it seems I can even hit targets from even further decent (say 40-60m). As long as I use my cover and don't go gun-blazing I usually get my kill. Dying one on one against an enemy I've noticed is pretty damn hard.
One on one the only guys that kill me are the ones who catch me in the back and start shooting ASAP.

Furthermore the recoil helps now with fast moving targets and targets further away. The heat-build-up was something I've noticed, but don't care too much about. With my advanced and prototype HMG I usually only overheat when I keep shooting until I got like 80-100 bullets left. (This is easily dismissed by letting the trigger go for half a second, get some cover, etc...) On the basic HMG I've noticed it's a bit easier to overheat, but as long as you know what you're doing there are no real problems.

All in all the Heavy is in a decent spot. One on one it usually overcomes most enemies. When grouped with other Heavies and a helpful DS or LLAV you'll become the King of the Battlefield. I would only want a flat damage reduction or maybe some more protection from ramming LAV's or explosives since that seems to be appropriate. It's not needed, but it would be helpful.
The HMG is in a sweet spot for me and I could definitely live with it staying as it is.


PS: For the ones saying I'ma troll or something else I've been a Heavy since the start of open beta (and actually closed, but I lost the account, so let's forget that one!). I've been through all the hard times we Heavies had. The massive HMG nerf, the doom that's called Tac-AR against us and when MD's reigned supreme. Ask my buddies for confirmation, or rather ask TUL in general!

Keep on killing!

Your all pray and spray trash standing out in the middle of an open field being killed ARs. Learn your class. CCP gave us HMGers some new awesome maps that are nearly all indoors CQC. I havn't been killing this many people since chromosome. Recoil skill wasn't needed, but if your overheating you have no idea what your doing.

Hmg needs more range and some hardeners to the suit itself

that recoil skill should be come a dispersion reduction skill, of 5% per level

There's definitly recoil on the HMG. If I keep shooting until I almost overheat I really need to adjust my aming. Luckily, thanks to the new adjusted skill this is hardly an issue anymore. I feel like living in Chromosome again!

/me goes back to using Burst HMGs.