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Hunter Junko
Zanzibar Concept
148
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:59:00 -
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Signed |
Skybladev2
RUST 415 RUST415
32
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:20:00 -
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Signed |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:42:00 -
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thank you all for the support. Any CPM out there want to weigh in on this? |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES
22
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:30:00 -
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Signed |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
542
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:34:00 -
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Signed |
Commander Dizzle
Closed For Business For All Mankind
21
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:55:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Situational awareness is paramount to a pilot. Real pilots have an official responsibility to "See and avoid" other aircraft.
This camera severely imparts that ability.
Return to he previous camera as a stop gap, but build a "virtual" first person view (hull cameras transmitted to the helmet screen) that replicates the wide view of a light helicopter. That would eliminate the dropship from blocking the view (rendering it essentially invisible). Adding flight instruments to the HUD would eliminate the need to watch the ship in third person view in order to control it.
Give us the option to hook up a set of USB rudder pedals for yaw control so we can use the Right stick for independent look control. Pilots will love you!
And joystick flight controls for Eve
Just sayin'. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
122
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Posted - 2013.09.04 10:06:00 -
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Yes.
The only thing I like about the new camera is that it's easier to see what is underneath you.
The rest is terrible
It really interferes with your spatial awareness, in particular it makes it a lot easier to hit obstacles behind you.
Fix it.
And get a bloody test server already. You need feedback from players who spend hundreds of hours flying these dropships before changes like this go live.
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
179
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Posted - 2013.09.04 10:35:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:This is a petition to return the 1.3 camera angle to the dropship. If you are a pilot then I'm sure you know what I'm talking about and if you would like to show support for this please post in this thread with your yea or nay. CCP I think I understand your reasoning. We thank you for trying to make using the turret better, though it has caused more problems than its worth. Please return the 1.3 camera angle to the dropship, either as an option or as the standard. For those of you who are not pilots and for CCP I will explain. The new camera angle not only makes flying harder, but also limits the effectiveness of the dropship. Most of my flying was based around seeing my dropship, looking at my angle of attack and watching where my engines were pointed. My take off was based entirely off of these two things. With the new camera angle I can no longer see half of my dropship when flying, this makes gauging my angle of attack, and my position in the air much harder than it should be. I feel as though I am constantly fighting with the camera the turret and the dropship. When I attempt to see my dropship from an angle like 1.3 (seeing my engines and the rest of my craft) the engines and AFT section of the dropship completely fills my screen. Also when doing hard banks the camera moves inside of the dropship which almost makes me crash. Having the camera so close to the front of the dropship has decreased our FOV quite substantially. I can no longer see around my dropship very well, this makes spotting forge gunners and rail tanks almost impossible unless they are directly in front of your dropship. I haven't encountered swarms yet but I know its harder to spot them already. That second when the forge gunner missed or the rail tank came over the hill was enough to save at least 50 of my dropships. I simply cant see them now. Dropping troops is also really difficult now because we cant really see anything except for whats right in front of us. Since we have to move the entire dropship to look around its less about flying and more about spinning around. I feel like a horse with blinders on. I have to completely forget about complex maneuvers now and relearn flying all together. This is heart breaking for me as I know I will never be as good or effective as a pilot as I was with the other camera view. All those months of becoming a good pilot have now been for not and I have to start again from scratch at more of a disadvantage please return the old camera CCP, Edit: please give us our wings back.... signed, Pvt Numnutz ladwar Nguruthos IX TheEnd762 Henchmen21 Waldkraut Funkmaster Whale Commander Dizzle Gabriella Grey T8R Raid CeeJ Mantis Gloomy Cobra Telleth V1RONXSS (I think) Skihids Alena Ventrallis Hunter Junko Skybladev2 Piraten Hovnoret shaman oga Ghural
You can add my name to the roster, but I wonder if we could make it a toggle? If you zoom in, you get the new angle, as i hear it is easyto shoot with |
NPA SAMAR
the jamahiriya
14
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Posted - 2013.09.04 10:46:00 -
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+1 to the list |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
351
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Posted - 2013.09.04 13:46:00 -
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I'll sign. |
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HOMBRE NOIR
Savage Your Ass Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 13:50:00 -
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+1
Signed. This is ********. Give us an option to cycle 3 views or something? Did no one think this would bother people?
Wow, r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d is word blocked? How appropriate. |
Brock Samson12
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
159
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:50:00 -
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+1 signed my alt character just skilled into pythons recently. now im not gonna fly them till we at least have a choice of camera angles. lost some cheap vipers last night crashing into stuff that i couldnt see till it was to late. and you can't even see your surroundings enough to watch out for forge/swarms let alone trying to land on something |
Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs Abandon PlayGrounds
148
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:00:00 -
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YAY! this needs to be fixed! |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
464
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:08:00 -
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We need to keep this afloat. Dropships are unbearable. Whatever CCP's definition of an "improved dropship camera" is completely ass-backwards. Please revert the camera and controls to what they were before! |
forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
75
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:32:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I still manage to Kill my opposing dropship even with the angle, i fly smoother with it for some reason
but maybe a tad less zoom so we aren't looking up the bum of our dropships
PS:I Like the camera angle just not the up the bum view |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1412
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:39:00 -
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forteXVI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I still manage to Kill my opposing dropship even with the angle, i fly smoother with it for some reason but maybe a tad less zoom so we aren't looking up the bum of our dropships PS:I Like the camera angle just not the up the bum view Might be because they Might have nerfed the speed of assault dropships LOL
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forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
75
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:40:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:forteXVI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I still manage to Kill my opposing dropship even with the angle, i fly smoother with it for some reason but maybe a tad less zoom so we aren't looking up the bum of our dropships PS:I Like the camera angle just not the up the bum view Might be because they Might have nerfed the speed of assault dropships LOL they are actually faster, and they gain speed faster, more mobility as well
The smooth flying is leaned towards the sway of the camera and more stability they have |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:05:00 -
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This needs to be fixed very soon. |
The Minoan ManiacArchon
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:11:00 -
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+1 signed...
I also think the new dropship camera makes the dropship almost unfliable...
I was in a game a few hours ago where a guy tried to land his Viper on a Tower in Line Harvest... Approached really cautiously... And landed it with half the ship hanging off the tower... He tried to recall it but it was falling off the tower... He got back in... A total mess.
I would say that if you're not really comfortable with flying the dropship, you can't use it anymore... |
Riptalis
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:13:00 -
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Signed
Allow an option for your camera view. I tried the dropships today and ended up crashing buildings due to the fact I can't see anything in the rear. Please fix.
P.S. My Militia Afterburner doesn't work for some reason even when I'm close to the ground nothing happens. Not sure if this is just me or a bug... |
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
190
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:17:00 -
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Thank you everyone for the continued support. I will update the list when I get to a computer, posting from a phone right now.
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
190
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:27:00 -
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forteXVI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:forteXVI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I still manage to Kill my opposing dropship even with the angle, i fly smoother with it for some reason but maybe a tad less zoom so we aren't looking up the bum of our dropships PS:I Like the camera angle just not the up the bum view Might be because they Might have nerfed the speed of assault dropships LOL they are actually faster, and they gain speed faster, more mobility as well The smooth flying is leaned towards the sway of the camera and more stability they have It does feel like the speed has been decreased. I will have to do more testing. The new camera does have its perks, a lot easier to kill people and I believe that is what they were aiming for. However I would never trade kills for visibility. We have gone from guessing where infantry are under our dropships to guessing where everything else around behind and above our dropships.
I have talked to a few pilots who do like this change, which is why I'm not bitchhing. I do see the advantages to this view, though for my style of flying I would prefer the new camera. This is why I would like an option for both |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
210
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:43:00 -
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I like the angle not the zoom of it though. Ran into one map with two ADS on the other team and they managed to make quick work of me simply because I could never find them, in looking for them I was all sorts of out of control. Maybe use one of the unused buttons as a free look mode that allows me to rotate the camera without moving the ship itself. You know like you can do in EVE. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
164
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:13:00 -
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I signed this in the chat channel, y my name not here?? D:
Anyway, plus one or signed or whatever gets my name on the list. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
312
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:28:00 -
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I don't mind the new camera, but perhaps maybe an adjustable camera (kinda like it is already except it cycles through 1.3 view (whole ship is in view), 1.4 view (can't see back half of ship) and then first person view using R3 as the toggle button)
What the heck....signed |
gargantuise aaron
Sanguine Knights
131
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:31:00 -
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Turn on dust Summons d.s. Oh my it's worse please change back |
halii oloektan
Reap Mercenary Corp
8
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:51:00 -
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No way. This camera is far better than the old one. As a ADS pilot I can now properly see my target and still be able to manoeuvre around obstacles.
-1 keep it as it is now. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2013.09.05 08:54:00 -
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We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. |
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
191
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Posted - 2013.09.05 09:48:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. Thank you Wolfman I appreciate the response. I would like to thank you again for trying this out, I do see the advantages of having the camera at the front of the ship. Though I have been learning with the other camera angle for a year. So far I've lost more dropships in two days than I have in two months! Swarms are very hard to see with out my FOV. It would be great if you could make an option to have either of the angles. Besides this I am loving 1.4! keep up the great work and thank you for listening to our feed back! |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1676
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Posted - 2013.09.05 09:50:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys.
just make an unused button to toggle the view... bomber mode... |
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