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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:19:00 -
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This is a petition to return the 1.3 camera angle to the dropship. If you are a pilot then I'm sure you know what I'm talking about and if you would like to show support for this please post in this thread with your yea or nay.
CCP I think I understand your reasoning. We thank you for trying to make using the turret better, though it has caused more problems than its worth. Please return the 1.3 camera angle to the dropship, either as an option or as the standard.
For those of you who are not pilots and for CCP I will explain.
The new camera angle not only makes flying harder, but also limits the effectiveness of the dropship. Most of my flying was based around seeing my dropship, looking at my angle of attack and watching where my engines were pointed. My take off was based entirely off of these two things.
With the new camera angle I can no longer see half of my dropship when flying, this makes gauging my angle of attack, and my position in the air much harder than it should be. I feel as though I am constantly fighting with the camera the turret and the dropship.
When I attempt to see my dropship from an angle like 1.3 (seeing my engines and the rest of my craft) the engines and AFT section of the dropship completely fills my screen. Also when doing hard banks the camera moves inside of the dropship which almost makes me crash.
Having the camera so close to the front of the dropship has decreased our FOV quite substantially. I can no longer see around my dropship very well, this makes spotting forge gunners and rail tanks almost impossible unless they are directly in front of your dropship. I haven't encountered swarms yet but I know its harder to spot them already. That second when the forge gunner missed or the rail tank came over the hill was enough to save at least 50 of my dropships. I simply cant see them now.
Dropping troops is also really difficult now because we cant really see anything except for whats right in front of us. Since we have to move the entire dropship to look around its less about flying and more about spinning around. I feel like a horse with blinders on.
I have to completely forget about complex maneuvers now and relearn flying all together. This is heart breaking for me as I know I will never be as good or effective as a pilot as I was with the other camera view. All those months of becoming a good pilot have now been for not and I have to start again from scratch at more of a disadvantage 
please return the old camera CCP, please give me my wings back....
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1443
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:36:00 -
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for the love of god! |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1346
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:38:00 -
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For the love of God CCP, please.
Do this. It needs to at least be an option, This new camera is far too limiting and the angles of blocking my entire screen with my ships butthole is blinding and ridiculous
I'd prefer to be able to maneuver better and not be broadsided by vipers or hit in the back by towers as I'm flying around.
Thanks |
TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
182
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:54:00 -
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+1, Signed.
CCP, put this back the way it was ASAP. Do NOT wait until 1.5. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1352
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:20:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Isjgc0oX0s |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
456
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:48:00 -
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I'm a scout shotgunner who is specced into blaster pythons on the side. 22m SP. All wasted atm, shotguns don't work. Scouts get aimbotted. Dropships are useless the way they stand and now i'm hearing blaster turrets are in the same state as shotguns. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1353
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:49:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:+1, Signed.
CCP, put this back the way it was ASAP. Do NOT wait until 1.5.
Where's our CPM on this fail? |
DNAcompound
xCosmic Voidx
The Superpowers
2
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:52:00 -
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I think the camera angles just fine
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:52:00 -
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Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
200
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:55:00 -
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Signed. Haven't even played yet but I trust Nguruthos on this one. |
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Waldkraut
Phantom Universe Task Force
Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:57:00 -
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Signed |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
423
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:09:00 -
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+1
I'm a KB/M pilot here and the dropship camera is so awful. It is way too close and seems to be incredibly sensitive to any mouse movements regardless of where the sensitivity is set. The vertical movement is way too much and it makes keeping the camera steady very difficult. Please revert it back! |
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University
Ivy League
216
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:15:00 -
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signed. |
Commander Dizzle
Closed For Business
For All Mankind
18
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:18:00 -
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*signed
Please fix or make it optional.
In my post in "General" I also made a comment for better aim for the forward turret while in 1st person flight. |
Gabriella Grey
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
35
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:19:00 -
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I sign this and motion for some Q&A with the devs on the future of dropships. I am still patient and hoping for the best with them. The last real update we have received was the better flight controls when Uprising came out and the removal of origami dropships. Now we have glass dropships, and I don't know, I am just a little annoyed that I am spinning my wheels with all the issues with dropships. I was really looking forward to great things from this patch. Oh I hope they share more information for us in 1.5 soon.   |
T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:23:00 -
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I backed into a building shooting infantry. I cant tell where i took a rail/forge shot from.
*SIGNED |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1359
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:25:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all....
We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother.
Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots...
Camera is BORKED
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
4
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:41:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED
I was in that match, and I couldn't score a kill on you or your teammates for the life of me. I will also attach my name to this cause. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
44
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:07:00 -
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Yessss! please do fix it, and make it very soooon. Don't make us wait till 1.5 to get this fixed.
This camera however does have its good part. When ccp does add in the bomber ds then yes maybe bring this view back (just for that bomber though) because it really does have a good view on the ground but as a transport or air to air or even air to ground is kinda hard cuz you cant see them av's.
*signed* |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:13:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I was in that match, and I couldn't score a kill on you or your teammates for the life of me. I will also attach my name to this cause.
Yeah was chaos for sure. When in massive air battles you need a large field of view. A couple times I almost crashed into you or one of your team mates simply because I couldn't see. I'm not a novice pilot, though I sure felt like one trying to hit your dropships.
Flying with condor squadron was really amazing, having so many pilots working together gave us quite the edge in battle. If we tried that now, Nguruthors IX and I both agree that it just wouldn't work. We would just end up crashing into each other by mistake. I got broadsided pretty hard by a MLT gallente ship before I could even react. |
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Telleth
DUST University
Ivy League
120
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:14:00 -
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Signed, go with a translucent dropship when you aim through it. May be harder to do, but this new camera angle is rather crap |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1363
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:36:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I was in that match, and I couldn't score a kill on you or your teammates for the life of me. I will also attach my name to this cause.
yeah, normally it's tough but not being able to see around or behind (And in some cases in FRONT of you) you is like.
Well honestly I can't express how I feel about it without swearing so. It's bad. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1363
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:39:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:CeeJ Mantis wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Also air to air combat is now just silly. Can hardly see anything at all.... We just had a TWENTY MINUTE match with 5-6 assault dropships all fighting eachother. Nobody could stay on or hit any of the other pilots. All good pilots... Camera is BORKED I was in that match, and I couldn't score a kill on you or your teammates for the life of me. I will also attach my name to this cause. Yeah was chaos for sure. When in massive air battles you need a large field of view. A couple times I almost crashed into you or one of your team mates simply because I couldn't see. I'm not a novice pilot, though I sure felt like one trying to hit your dropships. Flying with condor squadron was really amazing, having so many pilots working together gave us quite the edge in battle. If we tried that now, Nguruthors IX and I both agree that it just wouldn't work. We would just end up crashing into each other by mistake. I got broadsided pretty hard by a MLT gallente ship before I could even react.
This camera spells the death of multiple dropships on same team. It's a liability that no amount of skill can reliably avoid.
Just so many things wrong with this camera. I really hope we don't have to wait till 1.5 just to be able to fly again.
And if it's still like this in 1.5 I'm not sure I'll be around |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:12:00 -
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DNAcompound wrote:I think the camera angles just fine
Good to know some pilots like this. Played a 12 v 4 and experimented with low flying, was pretty good for maneuvering through obsticlas. Maninly because there was no AV to speak of. Over all I find that all the roles I've found for the dropship have been gimped. Amazing what such a little change can do |
V1RONXSS
ARMY 0F 2
7
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:09:00 -
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X |
843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F
46
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:25:00 -
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I vote to keep the new angle for the ADS but return it to the old one for LDS and SDS. |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:30:00 -
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843 nerfnut96 wrote:I vote to keep the new angle for the ADS but return it to the old one for LDS and SDS.
would you be ok with an option for ADS pilots to have the other camera? I wouldn't mind having two. |
Gabriella Grey
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
38
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:35:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:843 nerfnut96 wrote:I vote to keep the new angle for the ADS but return it to the old one for LDS and SDS. would you be ok with an option for ADS pilots to have the other camera? I wouldn't mind having two.
it wouldnt hurt for them to have 3 but all types of dropships need the old view to be able to better on understanding what is going on around them  |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2011
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:08:00 -
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Situational awareness is paramount to a pilot. Real pilots have an official responsibility to "See and avoid" other aircraft.
This camera severely imparts that ability.
Return to he previous camera as a stop gap, but build a "virtual" first person view (hull cameras transmitted to the helmet screen) that replicates the wide view of a light helicopter. That would eliminate the dropship from blocking the view (rendering it essentially invisible). Adding flight instruments to the HUD would eliminate the need to watch the ship in third person view in order to control it.
Give us the option to hook up a set of USB rudder pedals for yaw control so we can use the Right stick for independent look control. Pilots will love you! |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:56:00 -
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Signed. All my arguments have been stated already. |
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