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chill amarr
Austrian Tactical Hacker Corp
3
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Posted - 2013.09.05 09:51:00 -
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angle is right or it feels like that, but zoom is horrible atm, just fly gorgon cause this-.- but with 2 boosts even without turret to shoot fun ^^
still hope you guys fix it for event |
Beld Errmon
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
843
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:34:00 -
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Anyone that thinks the ADS aren't slower and less agile now obviously hasn't spent many hours flying them, the change has completely messed with the instincts and muscle memory i've built up with the ADS, i've gone from getting 15-30 kills a match in my incubus to getting 2... |
The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
831
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:44:00 -
[63] - Quote
signed |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
628
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:08:00 -
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Signed. I'd like to see it return as an option. Perhaps R3 could just cycle between first person, 3rd person far (aka previous camera), and 3rd person close (aka current camera)? |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1423
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:57:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. Thank you Wolfman  I appreciate the response. I would like to thank you again for trying this out, I do see the advantages of having the camera at the front of the ship. Though I have been learning with the other camera angle for a year. So far I've lost more dropships in two days than I have in two months! Swarms are very hard to see with out my FOV. It would be great if you could make an option to have either of the angles. Besides this I am loving 1.4! keep up the great work and thank you for listening to our feed back!
I can't even see when a forge flies past me (back or side) and misses, to give me that warning
"Hey you dodged a bullet, better gtfo now".
The new camera might be good for very situation, long distance, high speed, fighter style shooting. But beyond that it's worse for everything else I need to be able to do in the DS and it's not that I can't get used to it. It's that this removes my ability to access critical information about the environment as well as aiming other types of shots.
A toggle view would probably be best, since they went through the effort to try a new cam. But overall, yes. I'm liking 1.4 |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1423
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:00:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Anyone that thinks the ADS aren't slower and less agile now obviously hasn't spent many hours flying them, the change has completely messed with the instincts and muscle memory i've built up with the ADS, i've gone from getting 15-30 kills a match in my incubus to getting 2...
Other part of the problem is rendering seems to have been reduced. Like things don't render as far away (enemies, installations).
Another thing I noticed is it's trickier to aim at something when you can't always see it's chevron but this might be part of the new squad vision change.
Am I supposed to see a chevron for a target I'm directly facing my gun at from 50+ meters? Or do I have to be closer, or does a teammate have to have them spotted? I'll have to do some testing on this to figure out if it's a bug or new mechanic |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
238
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:03:00 -
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YESssss!
Do it! |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers
EoN.
579
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:34:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys.
Only make camera changes on Standard/Logistics Dropships, the new camera view for Assault Dropships is needed. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1423
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:46:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. Only make camera changes on Standard/Logistics Dropships, the new camera view for Assault Dropships is needed.
Because the assault drop-ship has no need to land, or see behind or around it ever too right?
Oh wait, the other thing.
Hence why most people here are suggestion to add it to the R3 cycle or something that keeps all options for different situations. In general I'd prefer my ADS not be locked into new camera. It's worse for pretty much Anything that isnt, as I said, shooting at a certain speed, distance and angle at certain times. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1423
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Posted - 2013.09.05 14:48:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. Only make camera changes on Standard/Logistics Dropships, the new camera view for Assault Dropships is needed.
I can't see what direction to turn my gunners or what they should be looking at which is terrible for synergy. If I can't line up shots for my gunners then they are both bored and useless.
*And before someone comes in here with the "realism" argument about god knows what remember that even automobiles have side and back mirrors, and in some cases even cameras. 1.3 third person is a representation of the awareness any vehicle like this would have, without needing to have multiple screens displaying mirrors or cameras to a first person flight simulator. |
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Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
273
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Posted - 2013.09.05 15:00:00 -
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The camera while flying is fairly hard to get used to as it changes where it is looking depending on what angle the ship is at, making any landing maneuver difficult as well as seeing the battlefield to drop mercs, avoid swarms and forges or identify where the enemy fire is coming from. I agree that a wider angle is better for dropship use, we are up in the air and should be able to see around the dropship rather than having the dropship take a full 1/3rd of the screen. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
89
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Posted - 2013.09.05 15:01:00 -
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Sighn me up, brother. |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
197
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:27:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys. Only make camera changes on Standard/Logistics Dropships, the new camera view for Assault Dropships is needed. I can't see what direction to turn my gunners or what they should be looking at which is terrible for synergy. If I can't line up shots for my gunners then they are both bored and useless. *And before someone comes in here with the "realism" argument about god knows what remember that even automobiles have side and back mirrors, and in some cases even cameras. 1.3 third person is a representation of the awareness any vehicle like this would have, without needing to have multiple screens displaying mirrors or cameras to a first person flight simulator.
Also we can't see our gunners health bars with this, so they have to keep track of it now. I use to be able to see their health, and take evasive for them while they were concentraiting on kills. Now I have no idea. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1436
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:45:00 -
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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and put my vote in for "Keep both 1.3, and 1.4 cameras as Options".
1.4 is more like what first person should have been.
1.3 is the third person we need.
tanks have a useful third and first person : / |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
356
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:15:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:We'll look in to getting this sorted out guys.
Thanks wolfman! Everything is nice in first person, but third person feels far too unresponsive now. |
Slender Night
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
0
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:35:00 -
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i agree the old way had its flaws but was still better. please revert this or give us the option. |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:30:00 -
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thank you all for your support. I'm glad so many other pilots feel the same as I do. Wolfman said he would get everything sorted out and I trust his word. Really happy they are listening to our feedback on this! |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1463
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:23:00 -
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Why did they nerf vehicle passengers abilities to look around?? |
forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
80
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:33:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Why did they nerf vehicle passengers abilities to look around?? Yup. you now have neck problems, therefor disabling you from looking around
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
166
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:43:00 -
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Signed and I don't even fly the damn things |
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
88
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:21:00 -
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Signed, put me on that list. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
857
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:30:00 -
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Please keep the LAV camera though. That thing is SWEET |
CLASSY PILOT
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:48:00 -
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Yes bring back |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:45:00 -
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Make sure all you vehicle enthusiasts speak up in this CCP survey:
Tell them the top priority is new Vehicles and new Modules.
http://www.questionpro.com/a/TakeSurvey?id=3603308&rd=159956782 |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
87
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:11:00 -
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Signed. With the mouse it it impossible to turn left/right without the camera freaking out. It's bad and needs to be fixed NOW! |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:24:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:I'm a scout shotgunner who is specced into blaster pythons on the side. 22m SP. All wasted atm, shotguns don't work. Scouts get aimbotted. Dropships are useless the way they stand and now i'm hearing blaster turrets are in the same state as shotguns.
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha oh dude I am so damn sorry, I feel you pain but that is a righteously ****** set of skills. I hope you get payed back by having all those things be OP as **** at once in the near future. |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
14
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:26:00 -
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LOLYES! I shoot up w/ the basic and militia afterburner and i can't see that our MCC is directly up ahead. I then crash and burn.  |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:02:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Signed, put me on that list.
list updated |
MarasdF Loron
Dark Knightz Corp.
121
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:20:00 -
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Signed. |
KrazyEyeKilla
The Phalanx Inc
26
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:02:00 -
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Signed |
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