So what is the purpose of the myofibs for a knife build then?

Do you use R3 a lot when knifing?

You can find me in the 'Scouts United' chat channel. There you will see a ton of minjas out there. Often times you get to run alongside your natural predator: the shotgunner.

A active scanners are very efective while using Nova knives against multiple enemies. U know the location and direction they are looking at and only about 95% people look when it says u have been scanned

good idea! i'll make a sub-fit where i replace the remote explosives with a flux active scanner.

good idea! i'll make a sub-fit where i replace the remote explosives with a flux active scanner.

this is true, hit detection does need some work, but i know ccp will fix it in time

Well I guess I'm just tying to figure out how radar hit me for 897 with only knives. It was within about 1-1.5s. He pretty much one shot me from what I can tell.

i know a guy named mr musturd who told me heal deals close to 1300 damage with his knives.

Mr. Mustard is a BEAST!

Seriously, the only knifer to ever kill me more than once (usually from behind) in a match. He jumped into a squad of 6 reds and walked out alone. He killed me 6 times that match.

I notice he always jumps like crazy though. Does jumping make hit easier to get a headshot?

Can you glitch the sprint charge without a primary weapon though? Curious how well this would work on a speed fitted logi suit. Is it absolutely necessary to sprint charge with knives?

Speed shotgun works pretty well on the logi suit, curious how a speed knife fit would work for high density CQC engagements.

It's not necessary to sprint charge with knives if you know how to sneak up on your target and you're a seasoned knifer. It's just slightly more difficult to do without it.

Can you glitch the sprint charge without a primary weapon though? Curious how well this would work on a speed fitted logi suit. Is it absolutely necessary to sprint charge with knives?

Speed shotgun works pretty well on the logi suit, curious how a speed knife fit would work for high density CQC engagements.

Mr. Mustard is a BEAST!

Seriously, the only knifer to ever kill me more than once (usually from behind) in a match. He jumped into a squad of 6 reds and walked out alone. He killed me 6 times that match.

I notice he always jumps like crazy though. Does jumping make hit easier to get a headshot?

Yeah I'm just wondering.. How though? Is it because of the myofibs?

I know complex myofibs can get up to 75% after passives, so two of them is about 140%, and 200 damage on the ishukone knives be would put you at around 400 a shot, ESP after some proficiency and the minja Melee bonus.

Then if it hits twice, it would add up to a 900 damage 1 shot.

But you're saying myofibs don't affect the R1 attack on knives?

The suit bonus is 25% the proficiency is 15% at level 5, proto blades are 200 each blade base without a charge, but proto blades take .8 of a second to charge so even a semi charged blade could do almost 400 damage without any bonus, so both blades charged would give you 800 damage with no bonuses added. So both knives with bonus on a quick slash do 575 damage and 1150 charged plus you probably get 100% efficiency in the head or from behind.
Takes tones of sp to achieve this damage but hey once you sink it the damage reward should be this high

it makes you harder to hit, plus you can charge while in mid-air.

So basically jumping is a cheap workaround to the sprint charge. I know everyone bunnyhops to avoid being hit, but he is just crazy. I had to camp a high point with MD to kill him, once, at the very end of the match. Mad respect for him, and I don't say that often.

to those of you who say Nova Knives are not practical, i'm willing to challenge you on that any day.

i am someone who uses nova knives mainly and not only goes positive (K/D), but gets 1st place regularly with scores upwards of 19-0 and up. now i didn't get this good overnight. as a matter of fact i started out going 2-11, and i considered that a good match! But with practice, i got better, and anyone can too.

in order to use nova knives, you will need a lot of determination and time/sp invested into your fit based around them.

Now, i originally used scrambler rifles, but later stopped, which one reason why i wish for a respec(but that is another topic )

at this point i've seen it all,when it comes the types of opponents you ill encounter using nova knives. by mastering nova knives, you will also master map awareness, stealth, and much more. you'll be able to take people on 1v6!

a few things you will NEED:

1.) Kinetic Catalyzers(at least Enhanced)
2.) At the very least Zn-28 Nova Knives
3.) an advanced scout suit, or proto assault suit with at least 3 lows.
4.) Complex Shield Extenders.(especially if you plan using knives against someone head on)

Note:this is just MY opinion feel free to correct me if you see something you don't agree with.

Things that will enhance your fit:
1.) Remote Explosives(these will help immensely, but are not needed)
2.) Ishukone Nova Knives or 'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives
3.) Myofybril Stimulant(purely optional)

the first thing you will need to learn is map awareness. this is one of the most key things if you want to walk this path. please, contact me if you would like some one on one training, i would be more than happy to teach you. Anyway your beginning days should be spent learning the maps insided and out, learning popular sniper spots, picking off people hacking or the occasional "lone heavy". this will help build the base required to become efficient in nova knife use.

next is to learn not to be afraid to run away. often times you'll find that the people you're facing are idiots to be blunt, and will either forget about you entirely, or try to chase you. this is where remote explosives will come in handy, as you will have the upper hand. you will lose alot of suits if you are blindly trying to slash someone to death, so be careful and remember that above all else, nova knifing is a stealthy way of playing, and only used to confront people head on when absolutely needed, or you master them.

NO MORE COMPLAINING ABOUT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO CHARGE WHILE SPRINTING!!!
we dont want this implemented so that everyone can use it, just the people who are serious about learning the way of the ninja. this is why i'll let you in on a little secret: if you have another weapon, then switch and press and hold R1 right when you are are switching to your nova knives, you will be able to charge while sprinting. (DON'T TELL ANYONE! IT'S A SECRET! lol JK)

finally the my fitting:

my main one goes as follows:

Caldari Basic Frame Ck.0
3 Complex Shield Extenders
1 Basic Shield Extender( interchangeable with Myofybril Stimulants
1 Militia Myofybril Stimulant Blueprint( interchangeable with Basic Shield Extenders)

'Toxin' Assault Rifle
'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives( dont have the skills yet to use the isk versions unforunately)

2 'Iris' Complex Kinetic Catalyzers(working on get the isk variants)
1 PG Upgrade

Remote Explosives

i have about 516 hp (390 shield + 126 armor)
i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts )
i deal roughly 140 damage melee

feel free to offer suggestions to enhance this. this is just what i've been using and getting my good scores with

This is the proof that scouts are broken, our base stats need to be higher an also have a extra equipment slot an another low for a minmatar an another high for gallente proto suits.

Our slot an CPU an pg configuration is broke if a scout with max skills is slower, if I want a gun , grenades, shield an nk on my fit I have to run a CPU chip an one complex red an that's with almost all my skills maxed
My electronics an engineering are at4 weapon operations 4 an explosives 4
If I use reds I can fit bombs an nk but I can't use 3 complex shields.
Nk uses too much CPU an should have a fitting bonus on scout suits

i don't understand why they would give a scout ANY less PG/CPU than any other suit.

Let alone make nk fitting so high without a optimization skill since it is a given every minmatar scout has them due to the bonus.
I been away from the knives for a while trying to practice my sg game, I still get more kills with r/e or knives than using any gun probably becaus my glasses are broke lol, but this damn stamina nerd has me quit cheesed going from 20+ nk kills a game to being reduced to preying strictly on lone wolves .