So we do know for sure myofibs affect knives?

Should be able to make a fit with 2 complex myos do an easy 400 a pop.

And then am i right that nova knives hit twice per charge or just the once?

Well I guess I'm just tying to figure out how radar hit me for 897 with only knives. It was within about 1-1.5s. He pretty much one shot me from what I can tell.

Hello Tranquil, nice to see a fellow ninja knifer here. I wanted to step in and point out a few things.

First off, nova knife damage and melee damage are completely separate from each other. That means that nova knifes are affected only by sidearm damage mods because they are technically sidearms while the melee (the butt end of your rifle or your fist) is affected only by the myofibral stimulants. None of the bonuses of one mod crosses into the other.

Also, since nova knives don't have the lunge feature like the melee does, you will have to learn how to anticipate your enemy's movement like you are playing chess. Otherwise, you will miss your target even with the sprint/charge bug that you mentioned. I have ran into multiple occasions where I had to use the instant attacks in rapid succession in a hectic fight between me and a logibro because the initial attack with the sprint/charge failed to hit him and I had almost no time to redo the glitch. That and tthe fact that occasionaly the constant weapon swapping can cause the weapons to overlap such when my hands were holding the nova knives like an SMG (lol) which forces me to waste precious time swapping weapons again.

Here are my various fits I use.

[Vagabond]
Scout MK.0
x1 ishukone nova knives
x1 militia smg
x2 enhanced kinetic catalyzers
x2 enhanced sidearmm damage mods
x1 enhanced shield extender
x1 flux grenade
x1 actiive scanner

[Dramiel]
scout MK.0
x1 ishukone nova knives
x1 militia smg
x1 flux grenade
x1 r-9 drop uplinks
x2 enhanced kin cats
x3 enhanced shield extenders

[Atron]
'Skinweave' gallente light frame
x1 zn-28 knives
x1 militia kin cat
x1 flux grenade
x1 miltia smg
x1 militia shield extender

If you notice closely, you will see that I use flux grenades quite often. Those help with softening my targets without putting myself at too much risk.

i know a guy named mr musturd who told me heal deals close to 1300 damage with his knives.

Yeah I'm just wondering.. How though? Is it because of the myofibs?

I know complex myofibs can get up to 75% after passives, so two of them is about 140%, and 200 damage on the ishukone knives be would put you at around 400 a shot, ESP after some proficiency and the minja Melee bonus.

Then if it hits twice, it would add up to a 900 damage 1 shot.

But you're saying myofibs don't affect the R1 attack on knives?

to those of you who say Nova Knives are not practical, i'm willing to challenge you on that any day.

i am someone who uses nova knives mainly and not only goes positive (K/D), but gets 1st place regularly with scores upwards of 19-0 and up. now i didn't get this good overnight. as a matter of fact i started out going 2-11, and i considered that a good match! But with practice, i got better, and anyone can too.

in order to use nova knives, you will need a lot of determination and time/sp invested into your fit based around them.

Now, i originally used scrambler rifles, but later stopped, which one reason why i wish for a respec(but that is another topic )

at this point i've seen it all,when it comes the types of opponents you ill encounter using nova knives. by mastering nova knives, you will also master map awareness, stealth, and much more. you'll be able to take people on 1v6!

a few things you will NEED:

1.) Kinetic Catalyzers(at least Enhanced)
2.) At the very least Zn-28 Nova Knives
3.) an advanced scout suit, or proto assault suit with at least 3 lows.
4.) Complex Shield Extenders.(especially if you plan using knives against someone head on)

Note:this is just MY opinion feel free to correct me if you see something you don't agree with.

Things that will enhance your fit:
1.) Remote Explosives(these will help immensely, but are not needed)
2.) Ishukone Nova Knives or 'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives
3.) Myofybril Stimulant(purely optional)

the first thing you will need to learn is map awareness. this is one of the most key things if you want to walk this path. please, contact me if you would like some one on one training, i would be more than happy to teach you. Anyway your beginning days should be spent learning the maps insided and out, learning popular sniper spots, picking off people hacking or the occasional "lone heavy". this will help build the base required to become efficient in nova knife use.

next is to learn not to be afraid to run away. often times you'll find that the people you're facing are idiots to be blunt, and will either forget about you entirely, or try to chase you. this is where remote explosives will come in handy, as you will have the upper hand. you will lose alot of suits if you are blindly trying to slash someone to death, so be careful and remember that above all else, nova knifing is a stealthy way of playing, and only used to confront people head on when absolutely needed, or you master them.

NO MORE COMPLAINING ABOUT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO CHARGE WHILE SPRINTING!!!
we dont want this implemented so that everyone can use it, just the people who are serious about learning the way of the ninja. this is why i'll let you in on a little secret: if you have another weapon, then switch and press and hold R1 right when you are are switching to your nova knives, you will be able to charge while sprinting. (DON'T TELL ANYONE! IT'S A SECRET! lol JK)

finally the my fitting:

my main one goes as follows:

Caldari Basic Frame Ck.0
3 Complex Shield Extenders
1 Basic Shield Extender( interchangeable with Myofybril Stimulants
1 Militia Myofybril Stimulant Blueprint( interchangeable with Basic Shield Extenders)

'Toxin' Assault Rifle
'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives( dont have the skills yet to use the isk versions unforunately)

2 'Iris' Complex Kinetic Catalyzers(working on get the isk variants)
1 PG Upgrade

Remote Explosives

i have about 516 hp (390 shield + 126 armor)
i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts )
i deal roughly 140 damage melee

feel free to offer suggestions to enhance this. this is just what i've been using and getting my good scores with

Very interesting, I'm definitely going to throw on a couple of knives for an alterna-fit.

I did not see anyone mention profile dampeners, is it more important to get that massive OHK, rather than boost your sneakiness?

Or, is the sensor system right now not optimal for sneaking, so the sneaky path should tehnically be an alternative path, just not viable right now within the constraints of the current system?

Very interesting, I'm definitely going to throw on a couple of knives for an alterna-fit.

I did not see anyone mention profile dampeners, is it more important to get that massive OHK, rather than boost your sneakiness?

Or, is the sensor system right now not optimal for sneaking, so the sneaky path should tehnically be an alternative path, just not viable right now within the constraints of the current system?

to those of you who say Nova Knives are not practical, i'm willing to challenge you on that any day.

i am someone who uses nova knives mainly and not only goes positive (K/D), but gets 1st place regularly with scores upwards of 19-0 and up. now i didn't get this good overnight. as a matter of fact i started out going 2-11, and i considered that a good match! But with practice, i got better, and anyone can too.

in order to use nova knives, you will need a lot of determination and time/sp invested into your fit based around them.

Now, i originally used scrambler rifles, but later stopped, which one reason why i wish for a respec(but that is another topic )

at this point i've seen it all,when it comes the types of opponents you ill encounter using nova knives. by mastering nova knives, you will also master map awareness, stealth, and much more. you'll be able to take people on 1v6!

a few things you will NEED:

1.) Kinetic Catalyzers(at least Enhanced)
2.) At the very least Zn-28 Nova Knives
3.) an advanced scout suit, or proto assault suit with at least 3 lows.
4.) Complex Shield Extenders.(especially if you plan using knives against someone head on)

Note:this is just MY opinion feel free to correct me if you see something you don't agree with.

Things that will enhance your fit:
1.) Remote Explosives(these will help immensely, but are not needed)
2.) Ishukone Nova Knives or 'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives
3.) Myofybril Stimulant(purely optional)

the first thing you will need to learn is map awareness. this is one of the most key things if you want to walk this path. please, contact me if you would like some one on one training, i would be more than happy to teach you. Anyway your beginning days should be spent learning the maps insided and out, learning popular sniper spots, picking off people hacking or the occasional "lone heavy". this will help build the base required to become efficient in nova knife use.

next is to learn not to be afraid to run away. often times you'll find that the people you're facing are idiots to be blunt, and will either forget about you entirely, or try to chase you. this is where remote explosives will come in handy, as you will have the upper hand. you will lose alot of suits if you are blindly trying to slash someone to death, so be careful and remember that above all else, nova knifing is a stealthy way of playing, and only used to confront people head on when absolutely needed, or you master them.

NO MORE COMPLAINING ABOUT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO CHARGE WHILE SPRINTING!!!
we dont want this implemented so that everyone can use it, just the people who are serious about learning the way of the ninja. this is why i'll let you in on a little secret: if you have another weapon, then switch and press and hold R1 right when you are are switching to your nova knives, you will be able to charge while sprinting. (DON'T TELL ANYONE! IT'S A SECRET! lol JK)

finally the my fitting:

my main one goes as follows:

Caldari Basic Frame Ck.0
3 Complex Shield Extenders
1 Basic Shield Extender( interchangeable with Myofybril Stimulants
1 Militia Myofybril Stimulant Blueprint( interchangeable with Basic Shield Extenders)

'Toxin' Assault Rifle
'Fleshriver' Ishukone Nova Knives( dont have the skills yet to use the isk versions unforunately)

2 'Iris' Complex Kinetic Catalyzers(working on get the isk variants)
1 PG Upgrade

Remote Explosives

i have about 516 hp (390 shield + 126 armor)
i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts )
i deal roughly 140 damage melee

feel free to offer suggestions to enhance this. this is just what i've been using and getting my good scores with

i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts

lol why?

lol why?

i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts)

awesome my minmatar scout m/1 series runs at 10.55 m/s

minnie MK.0

Ishukone Knives
Militia SMG/plasma cannon
Proto nades
Compact hive
Complex extenders
Complex kinetic
Complex Cardiac

thats all i ever need, gets the job done and you all get cut up, i rarely get picked up in the scouts united channel cuz everyone has their little cliques there but its all good, i like going in solo and helping random squads out.

the ones who have squadded with me know whats up, big time. Niuvo knows for sure ;) squad with him more than anyone there usually.

lol nah, it's not 390 shields, its more i like near 200-240 on the scout at 10.55 running. the 390 comes from my caldari nova knife fit which has 390 shield +126 armor and runs at 9.16 m/s