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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3780
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Posted - 2013.08.27 21:21:00 -
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Hello Tranquil, nice to see a fellow ninja knifer here. I wanted to step in and point out a few things.
First off, nova knife damage and melee damage are completely separate from each other. That means that nova knifes are affected only by sidearm damage mods because they are technically sidearms while the melee (the butt end of your rifle or your fist) is affected only by the myofibral stimulants. None of the bonuses of one mod crosses into the other.
Also, since nova knives don't have the lunge feature like the melee does, you will have to learn how to anticipate your enemy's movement like you are playing chess. Otherwise, you will miss your target even with the sprint/charge bug that you mentioned. I have ran into multiple occasions where I had to use the instant attacks in rapid succession in a hectic fight between me and a logibro because the initial attack with the sprint/charge failed to hit him and I had almost no time to redo the glitch. That and tthe fact that occasionaly the constant weapon swapping can cause the weapons to overlap such when my hands were holding the nova knives like an SMG (lol) which forces me to waste precious time swapping weapons again.
Here are my various fits I use.
[Vagabond]
Scout MK.0
x1 ishukone nova knives
x1 militia smg
x2 enhanced kinetic catalyzers
x2 enhanced sidearmm damage mods
x1 enhanced shield extender
x1 flux grenade
x1 actiive scanner
[Dramiel]
scout MK.0
x1 ishukone nova knives
x1 militia smg
x1 flux grenade
x1 r-9 drop uplinks
x2 enhanced kin cats
x3 enhanced shield extenders
[Atron]
'Skinweave' gallente light frame
x1 zn-28 knives
x1 militia kin cat
x1 flux grenade
x1 miltia smg
x1 militia shield extender
If you notice closely, you will see that I use flux grenades quite often. Those help with softening my targets without putting myself at too much risk. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3780
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Posted - 2013.08.27 21:40:00 -
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You can find me in the 'Scouts United' chat channel. There you will see a ton of minjas out there. Often times you get to run alongside your natural predator: the shotgunner. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3781
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Posted - 2013.08.28 00:11:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Can you glitch the sprint charge without a primary weapon though? Curious how well this would work on a speed fitted logi suit. Is it absolutely necessary to sprint charge with knives?
Speed shotgun works pretty well on the logi suit, curious how a speed knife fit would work for high density CQC engagements.
It's not necessary to sprint charge with knives if you know how to sneak up on your target and you're a seasoned knifer. It's just slightly more difficult to do without it. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3787
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:36:00 -
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I agree with Ozarow. The scout suit desperately needs to be improved with the CPU and PG at least. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3792
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Posted - 2013.08.28 14:37:00 -
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Don't hold your breath, Tranquil. Those of us who were around during May this year have received notices from CCP via the petition system saying that there will be no more respecs in the forseeable future.
CCP did however leave open the possibility of partial reimbursements of some of the skill points if they either remove some of the skill books that you invested in or reduce the SP requirements for each level of skill. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3794
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Posted - 2013.08.28 15:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Very interesting, I'm definitely going to throw on a couple of knives for an alterna-fit.
I did not see anyone mention profile dampeners, is it more important to get that massive OHK, rather than boost your sneakiness?
Or, is the sensor system right now not optimal for sneaking, so the sneaky path should tehnically be an alternative path, just not viable right now within the constraints of the current system?
Nice to see you here, Ratttati.
It's not that us ninja knifers don't prefer profile dampening over OHKness. It's the fact that the profile dampening doesn't feel like it's helping. I notice that even with two profile dampeners on my suit with profile dampening skills trained up, I am still spotted by most enemy mercs who probably don't even use an active scanner.
There is also the issue of lack of cover. There are just too many open spaces and not enough city structures and obstructions to make the dampeners work. This means that just running through the open field alone can already make my profile dampeners almost useless. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3794
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Posted - 2013.08.28 15:33:00 -
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Two more things I like to recommend to the ninja knifers out there who are just starting out.
1. Adjust your lateral turn sensitivity. This can help with managing tight turns in hectic situations.
2. Select an alternative control layout. You might find that the other layouts may benefit you more than the default one if possible. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3818
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Posted - 2013.08.29 02:06:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
i run at about 9.15 m/s (which is faster than MOST scouts)
Try 9.63m/s. And I'm stacking enhanced kin cats on my Minmatar scout. |
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