So now you resort to insulting my reading comprehension lol. GTFO man.

Let me explain it to you and bold the parts your reading comp fails to grasp.

The FG, Sniper Rifle, Rail Turret, Railgun Installation all use the exact same technology!

You are trying to claim that the FG fires a "ball of energy" lol if this is the case, then all Rail gun weapons fire a "ball of energy" If the rail turret fires a magnetically propelled projectile, then all Rail weapons fire a magnetically propelled projectile including the FG!

So the same physics should apply to all rail based weaponry!

I underlined it for you as well in case you missed the bold!

For some of the towers yes the TAC can hit, so can the standard AR. Not the tallest towers, no, but most of the ones with ladders.

I didn't say take them out with a DS I said have your DS in position over the tower at the flight ceiling waiting for your team to take him out then land on the tower and take out the uplinks and nanohives.

I am not claiming anything, its clear as day they fire different projectiles. If its the same technology the visual effect would be the same.

I am not claiming anything, its clear as day they fire different projectiles. If its the same technology the visual effect would be the same.

a RAIL GUN ON A TANK or installation!!!!!!

and the firing mechanism would be the same.
rails= really short charge time forge= really long charge time.
rails= clip has ammo forge= clip looks like a 4.5 volt battery

face it
forge Gëá rail
forge = same type of damage as rail.

just like the plasma cannon is plasma but the AR is projectile rounds w/ plasma in them.

The visual effect is the same on the FG as it is on the Railgun Installations, and the Sniper Rifle!

I am not claiming anything, its clear as day they fire different projectiles. If its the same technology the visual effect would be the same.

come on you know that is a bold face lie.

Even at close range, eh? I take it you're also good at no-scoping with a sniper rifle.

Forge Gun on a tower without ladder access is OP against vehicles because you have to fly the Forge Gunner's favorite prey up to kill him. It's only a nuisance against infantry up there, however, and less effective than your average sniper.

And it isn't just Forge Guns that are good way up thar. They're just the ideal weapon for defending the position.

IMO, Forge Gun's OPness is and always has been a map design issue. There should be no remote, defendable positions with only one method of access anywhere on any map.

"the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced"

The magnetic field is what fires the "kinetic slug". Kinetic energy is defined as the energy an object (in this case the slug) has due to its motion! If there is no object, there is no kinetic energy!

This "kinetic slug" can be associated with this.

"The railgun weaponizes velocity by using magnetic fields to accelerate projectiles to hypersonic speeds."

Quotes taken from Dust 514 Wiki

They both fire a magnetically propelled projectile!!!!!! The FG is powered by a battery!!!

IT IS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!

it is not the same technology, it is similar technology

btw

"This article needs additional citations for verification" that page has not been verified and its been up over 5 years.... that's a long while for it not to be verified... why because its wrong.

i would but i don't feel like talking to donkeys that once they are confronted go into a spasm yelling they are right when they can't see that everything they use just goes to prove them wrong.

"It's not overpowerd because I use it."[/thread]

^

Thank you both for your very meaningful and informative contribution to the discussion!

Rail Guns use Rails, in exactly the same manner as magnetically driven trains.

Sequential powering up of individual sections along the rail, driving the projectile along by magnetic force.

Real World Rail Guns have been used to fire projectiles incredible distances, accuracy and distance are both gained by increasing the length of the Rails.

EvE's rail guns are long distance weapons and iirc use containment fields: see below


from what i understand, EvE's blaster technology operates under similar conditions, but replaces the solid projectile with magnetically bound plasma, ejecting the plasma from the weapon at great speads, but due to the nature of the plasma and the methods used to give the round cohesion, this method is only good over shorter ranges.

The Blaster is a short range weapon.



no idea what this thread is about btw.. just thought i'd chime in with unwanted and probably erroneous factoids.

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oh wait i do know what this discussion is about : /...


hey erm arent forge guns based off of blasters? :P hence the short barrel size....

You sound a lot like the old TAR users saying the gun was fine.

Assault Forge Gun makes all your arguments invalid. I like the bad at CQC one, lol. The fast charge time is almost like using a mass driver. Spam those shots and I have the "balls" to tell you that this thing is better at CQC than the HMG.

Heavy dropsuit IS the hardest suit to kill at a distance, snipers don't do **** to them, that's why tower guy stays there whole match.

Stop saying Forge Gun is fine ffs, it's not.

-XOXO

Wouldn't it be possible, in theory, that the Forge Gun uses solid rounds (or gas filled containers) for ammunition but the process of charging and firing 'plasmafies' the round i.e: turns a solid (or gas) object into a ball of magnetically bound plasma? That would account for the short range on FG rounds compared to other Rail tech weapins, since the plasma would dissipate as the field breaks down.

Either that or the glow is the magnetic field around the round, but that doesn't really explain why a much larger Rail weapon firing solid rounds has a much shorter range than a Sniper Rifle, when the description implies it would hit at least as far.

Have you even tried to use a FG in CQC?

One Geck can kill a Heavy before he can charge the Assault FG 2 times. OMG that FG is so OP in CQC!

Like using a Mass Driver? LMMFAO yea right! the Mass drive can out DPS a FG in splash damage twice over!

Snipers own heavies all day long. We have to be by far the easiest suit to get a headshot on!

Snipers are my worst enemy! Any halfway decent sniper can rip through my Shields and at least 1/4 of my armor with one shot. Leaving the AR Jackals my bones to pick the meat off of!

Do you even dust bruh?

they all appear to be different weapon systems to me. The PC and current AR are obviously blasters (to me), and the sniper is described as a rail.
The heat discharge and "stabilizing the magnetic field" should be indicators that the FG is not a rail gun however... rail guns only have active magnetic fields during the firing sequence, and any heat is minimal compared to most weapon systems. I'm happy to be wrong as i have nothing invested outside of curiosity.
TLDR:
rail guns use rails.
compressing a magnetic charge to fling a projectile is not rail technology.

A rail is a form of projectile.

Using a compressed magnetic charge to fire it is Railgun Technology

On the forge gun, because the magnetic field is in such close proximity to the powersource it pulls electricity into it. This is why you see electric arc around the FG when charging and around the rail after firing. It is also what causes the extreme heat.

Not a blaster, in the slightest, This is not the most difficult concept to grasp, the question is entirely based on the nature of the ammunition

Blasters and Rails are hybrid weapons, now why are they both hybrid.

1) Blasters are hybrid because they have physical hallow shells which contain plasma, thus they primarily do thermal damage

2) Rails (which Eve also conflates with coil guns) are weapons that shoot solid slugs at really high speeds, hence rail weapons primarily do kinetic damage

The Forge gun shoots solid shells,

Also the devs shouldn't have to do double work because you guys can't do a little bit of researching, they already addressed the issue of classifying weapons based on weapon systems, just read the dev blogs

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/

Edit:

I wanted to include this

"The power supply must be able to deliver large currents, sustained and controlled over a useful amount of time. The most important gauge of power supply effectiveness is the energy it can deliver. As of December 2010, the greatest known energy used to propel a projectile from a railgun was 33 megajoules.[10] The most common forms of power supplies used in railguns are capacitors and compulsators which are slowly charged from other continuous energy sources.
The rails need to withstand enormous repulsive forces during shooting, and these forces will tend to push them apart and away from the projectile. As rail/projectile clearances increase, arcing develops, which causes rapid vaporization and extensive damage to the rail surfaces and the insulator surfaces. This limited some early research railguns to one shot per service interval.
The inductance and resistance of the rails and power supply limit the efficiency of a railgun design. Currently different rail shapes and railgun configurations are being tested, most notably by the United States Navy, the Institute for Advanced Technology, and BAE Systems."