Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

To use a FG you must use a Heavy Dropsuit. The Heavy Dropsuit is by far the Easiest dropsuit to counter in the game because of our very large hitbox and very slow Movement/Sprint Speed.

FG (and other) Heavies require intensive squad support in the form of nanohives, armor repair, and nanite injectors in order to be mildly effective in any battle situation.

Once in CQC the FG is useless. This limits the Heavy to a side arm, making him extremely vulnerable to enemy attack.

The Tower Forge Gunner complaint is the most common. People complain because "they are on a high tower and don't render" Seriously guys how many towers exist in this game that are only accessible with dropships? It is not that difficult to figure out where their perch is. Once located it is not difficult to use some elementary squad coordination to take them out.

Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

To use a FG you must use a Heavy Dropsuit. The Heavy Dropsuit is by far the Easiest dropsuit to counter in the game because of our very large hitbox and very slow Movement/Sprint Speed.

FG (and other) Heavies require intensive squad support in the form of nanohives, armor repair, and nanite injectors in order to be mildly effective in any battle situation.

Once in CQC the FG is useless. This limits the Heavy to a side arm, making him extremely vulnerable to enemy attack.

The Tower Forge Gunner complaint is the most common. People complain because "they are on a high tower and don't render" Seriously guys how many towers exist in this game that are only accessible with dropships? It is not that difficult to figure out where their perch is. Once located it is not difficult to use some elementary squad coordination to take them out.

Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

Provided you can get up there with a dropship.....oh wait you have a 2 hit instapop-dropship gun with range that is "LOLthewholemap"

To use a FG you must use a Heavy Dropsuit. The Heavy Dropsuit is by far the Easiest dropsuit to counter in the game because of our very large hitbox and very slow Movement/Sprint Speed.

FG (and other) Heavies require intensive squad support in the form of nanohives, armor repair, and nanite injectors in order to be mildly effective in any battle situation.

Once in CQC the FG is useless. This limits the Heavy to a side arm, making him extremely vulnerable to enemy attack.

The Tower Forge Gunner complaint is the most common. People complain because "they are on a high tower and don't render" Seriously guys how many towers exist in this game that are only accessible with dropships? It is not that difficult to figure out where their perch is. Once located it is not difficult to use some elementary squad coordination to take them out.

Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

Reasons FG is OP:

Have you ever wanted a weapon that has a powerful range and powerful against all types of entities even at close range or any range well the assault forge gun is your pick counter any infantry and vehicle.

LOL at FG in close range. If you get killed in CQC by a FG then you should find another game because this on obviously isn't for you.

easy to counter in CQC yea right now... with 1.4 not anymore. at range no not really, your just blowing smoking. btw in CQC the FG is a good first blow and if it doesn't kill you enemy they have lost over half is HP. it takes 3+ coordination to remove 1 heavy FG sniper and thats not OP? have you seen how high those towers are? TAC AR doesn't have that much range if the sat at the base and shot up. and LOL getting a DS above them it next to impossible and that is if you get the DS to the fight ceiling before getting shot down.

guess you have never used the FG to OHK in CQC then.

Reasons FG is OP:

Have you ever wanted a weapon that has a powerful range and powerful against all types of entities even at close range or any range well the assault forge gun is your pick counter any infantry and vehicle.

FG needs some shake during charge to prevent it's ability to counter snipe with pinpoint accuracy
Splash radius and splash damage needs to be reduced or removed altogether

I have, but this requires a direct hit, which is very difficult with the Assault FG

Even at close range, eh? I take it you're also good at no-scoping with a sniper rifle.

Forge Gun on a tower without ladder access is OP against vehicles because you have to fly the Forge Gunner's favorite prey up to kill him. It's only a nuisance against infantry up there, however, and less effective than your average sniper.

And it isn't just Forge Guns that are good way up thar. They're just the ideal weapon for defending the position.

IMO, Forge Gun's OPness is and always has been a map design issue. There should be no remote, defendable positions with only one method of access anywhere on any map.

There is plenty of ways to counter the Forge Gunner on a tower. I detailed them in my original post. I will reiterate. Spawn a DS in your ground spawn then immediately take it to the flight ceiling. Both of these locations are out of FG range. While at flight ceiling hover over the tower, then wait for your squad to distract or kill the Forge Gunner, then drop down and take out his uplinks/nanohives. Done!

LOL no its not they even made it easier w/ better hit detection. i guess your horrible w/ the shotgun, plasma cannon and scambler pistol then as well and you need your bullet hoses *cough* HMG/smg *cough*

To use a FG you must use a Heavy Dropsuit. The Heavy Dropsuit is by far the Easiest dropsuit to counter in the game because of our very large hitbox and very slow Movement/Sprint Speed.

FG (and other) Heavies require intensive squad support in the form of nanohives, armor repair, and nanite injectors in order to be mildly effective in any battle situation.

Once in CQC the FG is useless. This limits the Heavy to a side arm, making him extremely vulnerable to enemy attack.

The Tower Forge Gunner complaint is the most common. People complain because "they are on a high tower and don't render" Seriously guys how many towers exist in this game that are only accessible with dropships? It is not that difficult to figure out where their perch is. Once located it is not difficult to use some elementary squad coordination to take them out.

Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

pssss i kill RDVs and w/e vehicle ppl call in their red zones.. nice juicey 150 wp RDVs.

and sniping... with what rendering range?

To use a FG you must use a Heavy Dropsuit. The Heavy Dropsuit is by far the Easiest dropsuit to counter in the game because of our very large hitbox and very slow Movement/Sprint Speed.

FG (and other) Heavies require intensive squad support in the form of nanohives, armor repair, and nanite injectors in order to be mildly effective in any battle situation.

Once in CQC the FG is useless. This limits the Heavy to a side arm, making him extremely vulnerable to enemy attack.

The Tower Forge Gunner complaint is the most common. People complain because "they are on a high tower and don't render" Seriously guys how many towers exist in this game that are only accessible with dropships? It is not that difficult to figure out where their perch is. Once located it is not difficult to use some elementary squad coordination to take them out.

Solo Tower FG heavies can easily be countered by a Medium or Light Suit team of two. One with an active scanner and shotgun or AR or nearly any other Handheld light weapon in the game another with a sniper rifle or *gasp* Heavy with a FG. If the Heavy is on a tower with no ladder Squad Coordination can be used to easily locate the Heavy for snipers to focus fire and nullify the threat. A dropship should be in position at flight ceiling over the tower to then land on the tower and remove any uplinks or nanohives. Even the Tac AR can easily take out a Tower FG Heavy from the ground.

Feel free to add more reasons why the FG is not Overpowered.

There is plenty of ways to counter the Forge Gunner on a tower. I detailed them in my original post. I will reiterate. Spawn a DS in your ground spawn then immediately take it to the flight ceiling. Both of these locations are out of FG range. While at flight ceiling hover over the tower, then wait for your squad to distract or kill the Forge Gunner, then drop down and take out his uplinks/nanohives. Done!

i guess your horrible w/ the shotgun, plasma cannon and scambler pistol then as well and you need your bullet hoses *cough* HMG/smg *cough*

1. Heavies are not easily countered, it takes a minimum of 2 charge sniper shots to kill one (that's fully stacked with complex Dmg mods and level 5 proficiency).

2. Mostly true but put a advanced or complex armour repper and level up am capacity on your FG and your golden.

3.the forge gun is not 100% useless in CQC, besides any smart forge gunner would not go into CQC

4. Agreed, they can be taken out but not with a paper thin dropship. I'm a DS so I know how easy it is to wreck a DS

5. Same as 4.....what are you talking about "a TAC assault rifle can take out a tower forge gunner" no it can't!!!!! The TAC AR doesn't have that kind of range. All the towers that Forge gunners use require either a dropship or sniper, but neither can take out a heavy before he ducks back into cover.

The only thing I've ever seen reliably killed in CQC with Forge Guns is HMG Heavies. Pour a 40 on the curb for fattie on fattie violence...