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Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.26 22:21:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Face it, tanks wanna solo the whole team, but want 3-4 people to take them down.
Yet they don't want to use teamwork to counter AV.
They also don't want to get out of the tank and counter the AVer.
They simply want forgers to be within killing range of their blaster, which of course means death for the forger.
Face it, tankers these days are scrubs who want easy mode. That was the whole reason they specced into tanks. Then they got the rude awakening of that, just like every other game, an AVer can solo a tank, because if it takes 2 AVers or more, teamwork becomes a necessity, and considering its a video game, teamwork is rare. All of a sudden tanks become totally broke because to require teamwork to counter something is completely chance, rather than a lone AVers skill.
I'm glad that even though I was one of the best tankers last build, i respecced out of them.
Otherwise I'd be lumped in with the garbo tankers we have now.
isnt the OP arguing exactly that though? that it should take a dedicated team to take out the tower camp?
as far as not getting out of your tank... that will change when there are vehicle locks.
I see no reason why FG should not remain as they are, but i do think that we need to have less easy targets for them to LOLSnipe.
bring on the vehicle tiers with increased CPU/PG and slots puh-lease :)....oh and rendering is hopefully getting a fix :P can't wait for the FG QQ over getting LOLRail-sniped off towers 
Also might want to add that last build all infantry weapons did less damage... try tanking in the current pre1.4/1.5 game... maybe you weren't as good as you thought :P |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
335
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Posted - 2013.08.27 02:57:00 -
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Rail Guns use Rails, in exactly the same manner as magnetically driven trains.
Sequential powering up of individual sections along the rail, driving the projectile along by magnetic force.
Real World Rail Guns have been used to fire projectiles incredible distances, accuracy and distance are both gained by increasing the length of the Rails.
EvE's rail guns are long distance weapons and iirc use containment fields: see below
from what i understand, EvE's blaster technology operates under similar conditions, but replaces the solid projectile with magnetically bound plasma, ejecting the plasma from the weapon at great speads, but due to the nature of the plasma and the methods used to give the round cohesion, this method is only good over shorter ranges.
The Blaster is a short range weapon.
no idea what this thread is about btw.. just thought i'd chime in with unwanted and probably erroneous factoids.
edit:
oh wait i do know what this discussion is about : /...
hey erm arent forge guns based off of blasters? :P hence the short barrel size.... |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
335
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Posted - 2013.08.27 03:43:00 -
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okay i stand corrected the FG does indeed use solid projectiles.... BUT.... its description does not state that it is a rail gun.
FG
"powered by a gemini microcapacitor, the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s .... During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced...."
Sniper Rifle
"using microscale railgun technology, the sniper rifle effectively weaponizes velocity, putting an inert round downrange in excess of 2,500m/s. ..."
Plasma Cannon
"during the short pre-fire charge, ultracold plasma is prepared and then heated inside a magneto-core trap. Just prior to discharge, a small precursor projectile is fired that produces (and is ultimately consumed by) ...."
AR
"charged plasma munitions are pumped into a cyclotron that converts the plasma into a highly lethal bolt before it is expelled from the chamber. ... "
they all appear to be different weapon systems to me. The PC and current AR are obviously blasters (to me), and the sniper is described as a rail.
The heat discharge and "stabilizing the magnetic field" should be indicators that the FG is not a rail gun however... rail guns only have active magnetic fields during the firing sequence, and any heat is minimal compared to most weapon systems. I'm happy to be wrong as i have nothing invested outside of curiosity.
TLDR:
rail guns use rails.
compressing a magnetic charge to fling a projectile is not rail technology.
like ive said before (I'm) fine with the FG as it is, if tankers can get access to higher tiers of HAV. Preferably with increased CPU/PG and extra slots :P
As far as tower camping goes, good luck with that when they finally fix pilot render distances, on a tower is the last place you'll want to be.
sorry if i am misinterpreting anything, as i havent read the entire thread.... from the gist of it, you are trying to save the FG from a possible future nerf?
Aside from what is said on the forums, i don't think CCP nerf's stuff they feel is balanced. They've refused to nerf stuff previously. They may or may not balance, but i trust their processes in the Long Term.
Good luck if you need it, ... |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
339
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Posted - 2013.08.27 05:50:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Billi Gene wrote:
they all appear to be different weapon systems to me. The PC and current AR are obviously blasters (to me), and the sniper is described as a rail.
The heat discharge and "stabilizing the magnetic field" should be indicators that the FG is not a rail gun however... rail guns only have active magnetic fields during the firing sequence, and any heat is minimal compared to most weapon systems. I'm happy to be wrong as i have nothing invested outside of curiosity.
TLDR:
rail guns use rails.
compressing a magnetic charge to fling a projectile is not rail technology.
A rail is a form of projectile. Using a compressed magnetic charge to fire it is Railgun Technology On the forge gun, because the magnetic field is in such close proximity to the powersource it pulls electricity into it. This is why you see electric arc around the FG when charging and around the rail after firing. It is also what causes the extreme heat.
actually using a compressed magnetic charge is more akin to blaster tech.... rail guns use....rails....
wikipedia-rail gun |
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