Pickup is made of fiberglass over a metal chassis, my LAV is an armoured vehicle that is better armoured then current day APCs that can run through walls.

Just a perspective, sherman tanks have 76mm of armour, my LAV would have over that with a single plate. Are you saying that a heavy wouldnt get run over by a sherman tank going even 60 km/h and the sherman wouldnt come out fine? Shermans litterally went through houses, abit slowly, but houses.

Pickup is made of fiberglass over a metal chassis, my LAV is an armoured vehicle that is better armoured then current day APCs that can run through walls.

Just a perspective, sherman tanks have 76mm of armour, my LAV would have over that with a single plate. Are you saying that a heavy wouldnt get run over by a sherman tank going even 60 km/h and the sherman wouldnt come out fine? Shermans litterally went through houses, abit slowly, but houses.

And a moose is just flesh and bone, that Heavy suit is designed to withstand impacts that would wreck a modern tank.


Working from DUST lore, a Heavy would probably get tangled in the wreckage of a Sherman tank that tried running it over. Much like a pickup or a moose, a house isn't a military tool, and isn't designed for use in combat, so running through it in a tank is less of a big deal than you're making it sound. An old muscle car can drive through some houses without taking significant damage. Does that means it's a suitable weapon on a modern battlefield? Nope. Is it comfortable running down unarmoured people? As long as they don't shoot it before it hits them, yeah. But if it rammed a Heavy, they probably wouldn't even be slowed down by the wreck like they would if a well-made but old tank hit them.

Your LAV is built as a fast open-topped military vehicle. It's comparable to a Jeep in relation to its overall capabilities. The Heavy suit is looking at a comparable level of durability. It's not quite the same, but it's on a close enough level that it's going to shake things around and probably break a few parts when you run the Heavy over.

I have another idea! Let's remove ALL damage from the game and have a big pillow fight!

And a moose is just flesh and bone, that Heavy suit is designed to withstand impacts that would wreck a modern tank.


Working from DUST lore, a Heavy would probably get tangled in the wreckage of a Sherman tank that tried running it over. Much like a pickup or a moose, a house isn't a military tool, and isn't designed for use in combat, so running through it in a tank is less of a big deal than you're making it sound. An old muscle car can drive through some houses without taking significant damage. Does that means it's a suitable weapon on a modern battlefield? Nope. Is it comfortable running down unarmoured people? As long as they don't shoot it before it hits them, yeah. But if it rammed a Heavy, they probably wouldn't even be slowed down by the wreck like they would if a well-made but old tank hit them.

Your LAV is built as a fast open-topped military vehicle. It's comparable to a Jeep in relation to its overall capabilities. The Heavy suit is looking at a comparable level of durability. It's not quite the same, but it's on a close enough level that it's going to shake things around and probably break a few parts when you run the Heavy over.

while i want to agree with you, i see you going "only 700 lbs" and i facepalm

you realize the heavy suit CANT jump and that the entire suit is a walking tank that would kill the person inside due to the sheer weight if it wasnt for the powered exoskeleton that allows it to carry the heavy weps?

well, might not outright kill the merc, but it is clearly beyond the realm of human strength

but it can jump, about a foot off the ground.

I'd like you to research kenitics and tell me what happens to a 700lbs object being hit by 10 - 15 tons moving at 60km/h - 100 km/h. Guess what happens, the 700lbs object gets crushed, usually taking the path of least resistance either overtop or underneither the LAV.

you idiots just need to spec into av equipment proximity minds help a lot as do swarmers and forge guns and av grenades i get my ass ran over but i also use lavs all the time grow a pair and learn how to run

If the Heavy is only 700lbs (it's probably closer to that amount in kg), then the LAV would, by your own arguments and calculations, only be around 1000lbs.

You know what happens when objects with a mass that similar, but with one significantly more dense, collide at high speed?

The larger object gets a massive dent in it (a "dent" would translate as "damage" in a videogame, in case you're wondering) and the smaller object remains intact, but gets sent flying (probably killing all occupants if there's someone crazy enough to be inside the thing).

Looking at that baseball analogy... ever tried using a hollow metal bat and a hollow metal ball? Because I have (high school science project). The ball (lighter object) went flying, but the bat (heavier impact) bent at the point of impact and had a large dent.

LAV takes damage, Heavy dies. Not sure why you guys are missing this logic.

Great, so in this game where i CAN spec my vehicle into being able to take more hits and be all around more effective that just solidifies my ability to go for roadkills if i so choose. not saying thats my thing, id rather get out n gun someone down, but thanks for proving my points.

true games......lol

heavy isnt a hllow thing, theres a person inside, much like a baseball has a softer cork core

doesn't the heavy discription say it can toe to toe with a vehicle

have you been playing with your eyes closed?

If the Heavy is only 700lbs (it's probably closer to that amount in kg), then the LAV would, by your own arguments and calculations, only be around 1000lbs.

You know what happens when objects with a mass that similar, but with one significantly more dense, collide at high speed?

The larger object gets a massive dent in it (a "dent" would translate as "damage" in a videogame, in case you're wondering) and the smaller object remains intact, but gets sent flying (probably killing all occupants if there's someone crazy enough to be inside the thing).

Looking at that baseball analogy... ever tried using a hollow metal bat and a hollow metal ball? Because I have (high school science project). The ball (lighter object) went flying, but the bat (heavier impact) bent at the point of impact and had a large dent.

LAV takes damage (EDIT: and slows down), Heavy dies. Not sure why you guys are missing this logic.

The point is, the heavy is no where NEAR the weight of the LAV

no i've been trying not to look at your ugly face

Source?