You've never read the description on the Heavy suits, have you?

The official lore states that WITHOUT ADDING PLATES, the minimum thickness of armour covering a Heavy suit is 25mm. That's almost an inch of covering on the WEAKEST parts of the suit.

Pretty sure adding Plates means more than inch-thick armour.

And that's just the armour, not accounting for the extra thickness (and thus weight) required for the sensors, motors and other systems that make the suit actually function as powered armour instead of just slabs of metal attached around a person and preventing them from moving.

So yes, a Heavy suit would probably weigh more than half a ton, and it's reasonable to expect LAVs to crash pretty painfully when they hit one.

Minimum armour thickness is less than half what a Heavy suit has. We don't know the maximum, but looking at the design, there are overlapping sections, so probably close to - if not more than - the 60mm plate you can attach on your LAV.

Regardless of that factor though, the HEAVY SUIT should be comfortably able to plow through a moose. The LAV should NOT be comfortably able to plow through a Heavy suit without any damage.

Minimum armour thickness on a Heavy suit, as per the lore, is 25mm.
Minimum armour thickness on the M113 APC, as per the quote I was replying directly to at the time, is 12mm.

12 x 2 = 24
24 < 25

Math is your friend. So is basic reading comprehension.

your bogus. i have done it.

knife ----> head

And a moose is just flesh and bone, that Heavy suit is designed to withstand impacts that would wreck a modern tank.


Working from DUST lore, a Heavy would probably get tangled in the wreckage of a Sherman tank that tried running it over. Much like a pickup or a moose, a house isn't a military tool, and isn't designed for use in combat, so running through it in a tank is less of a big deal than you're making it sound. An old muscle car can drive through some houses without taking significant damage. Does that means it's a suitable weapon on a modern battlefield? Nope. Is it comfortable running down unarmoured people? As long as they don't shoot it before it hits them, yeah. But if it rammed a Heavy, they probably wouldn't even be slowed down by the wreck like they would if a well-made but old tank hit them.

Your LAV is built as a fast open-topped military vehicle. It's comparable to a Jeep in relation to its overall capabilities. The Heavy suit is looking at a comparable level of durability. It's not quite the same, but it's on a close enough level that it's going to shake things around and probably break a few parts when you run the Heavy over.

while i want to agree with you, i see you going "only 700 lbs" and i facepalm

you realize the heavy suit CANT jump and that the entire suit is a walking tank that would kill the person inside due to the sheer weight if it wasnt for the powered exoskeleton that allows it to carry the heavy weps?

well, might not outright kill the merc, but it is clearly beyond the realm of human strength

If the Heavy is only 700lbs (it's probably closer to that amount in kg), then the LAV would, by your own arguments and calculations, only be around 1000lbs.

You know what happens when objects with a mass that similar, but with one significantly more dense, collide at high speed?

The larger object gets a massive dent in it (a "dent" would translate as "damage" in a videogame, in case you're wondering) and the smaller object remains intact, but gets sent flying (probably killing all occupants if there's someone crazy enough to be inside the thing).

Looking at that baseball analogy... ever tried using a hollow metal bat and a hollow metal ball? Because I have (high school science project). The ball (lighter object) went flying, but the bat (heavier impact) bent at the point of impact and had a large dent.

LAV takes damage (EDIT: and slows down), Heavy dies. Not sure why you guys are missing this logic.