I understand that this is probably the 596th post about the Killer Taxi problem but I just gotta put my 2 cents in. Why not just make it impossible to kill players by running them down. Just like when the ability to run down team mates was changed. Being pushed along is inconvenience enough.

All we want is to be more than just a bump in the road...

You've never read the description on the Heavy suits, have you?

The official lore states that WITHOUT ADDING PLATES, the minimum thickness of armour covering a Heavy suit is 25mm. That's almost an inch of covering on the WEAKEST parts of the suit.

Pretty sure adding Plates means more than inch-thick armour.

And that's just the armour, not accounting for the extra thickness (and thus weight) required for the sensors, motors and other systems that make the suit actually function as powered armour instead of just slabs of metal attached around a person and preventing them from moving.

So yes, a Heavy suit would probably weigh more than half a ton, and it's reasonable to expect LAVs to crash pretty painfully when they hit one.

At what point in my post are you seeing me state that the guy in the Heavy suit should survive being splattered through the inside of his suit?

I said the LAV needs to be taking significant damage from the impact. I never said the Heavy suit shouldn't be killed from a hard enough hit.

Minimum armour thickness is less than half what a Heavy suit has. We don't know the maximum, but looking at the design, there are overlapping sections, so probably close to - if not more than - the 60mm plate you can attach on your LAV.

Regardless of that factor though, the HEAVY SUIT should be comfortably able to plow through a moose. The LAV should NOT be comfortably able to plow through a Heavy suit without any damage.

How is the minimum thickness less then half of the heavy suit? My Gallenette LAV has over 1400 Armour without plates, around 2600 with plates, im pretty sure my LAV could mangle a heavy suit. Im not even counting the over 1000 HP from shields.

Im not driving a M113 APC though, im driving a limbus. Going by HP numbers if a fully decked out heavy is rocking around 900 armour and my car is at base without armour mods around 1400 I should be able to plow through a heavy.

1400 > 900

on another note, If I can jump ontop of a LAV I should be able to knife the driver out of it. You can shoot them out but you cant knife them. Its bogus.

lol what are you smoking? cars are made of fiberglass...yea there will be some damage. It's a 400 pound dear...something is going to leave a mark.

IT Is common in games with vehicles, true,games where vehicles are not cusomizable, nor soldiers have skills to use them with better preformance,nor vehicles take 4+ hits of Anti infantry weaponry.

You are right. It is common in other games. This isnt other games.

Pickup is made of fiberglass over a metal chassis, my LAV is an armoured vehicle that is better armoured then current day APCs that can run through walls.

Just a perspective, sherman tanks have 76mm of armour, my LAV would have over that with a single plate. Are you saying that a heavy wouldnt get run over by a sherman tank going even 60 km/h and the sherman wouldnt come out fine? Shermans litterally went through houses, abit slowly, but houses.

And a moose is just flesh and bone, that Heavy suit is designed to withstand impacts that would wreck a modern tank.


Working from DUST lore, a Heavy would probably get tangled in the wreckage of a Sherman tank that tried running it over. Much like a pickup or a moose, a house isn't a military tool, and isn't designed for use in combat, so running through it in a tank is less of a big deal than you're making it sound. An old muscle car can drive through some houses without taking significant damage. Does that means it's a suitable weapon on a modern battlefield? Nope. Is it comfortable running down unarmoured people? As long as they don't shoot it before it hits them, yeah. But if it rammed a Heavy, they probably wouldn't even be slowed down by the wreck like they would if a well-made but old tank hit them.

Your LAV is built as a fast open-topped military vehicle. It's comparable to a Jeep in relation to its overall capabilities. The Heavy suit is looking at a comparable level of durability. It's not quite the same, but it's on a close enough level that it's going to shake things around and probably break a few parts when you run the Heavy over.

but it can jump, about a foot off the ground.

you idiots just need to spec into av equipment proximity minds help a lot as do swarmers and forge guns and av grenades i get my ass ran over but i also use lavs all the time grow a pair and learn how to run

If the Heavy is only 700lbs (it's probably closer to that amount in kg), then the LAV would, by your own arguments and calculations, only be around 1000lbs.

You know what happens when objects with a mass that similar, but with one significantly more dense, collide at high speed?

The larger object gets a massive dent in it (a "dent" would translate as "damage" in a videogame, in case you're wondering) and the smaller object remains intact, but gets sent flying (probably killing all occupants if there's someone crazy enough to be inside the thing).

Looking at that baseball analogy... ever tried using a hollow metal bat and a hollow metal ball? Because I have (high school science project). The ball (lighter object) went flying, but the bat (heavier impact) bent at the point of impact and had a large dent.

LAV takes damage, Heavy dies. Not sure why you guys are missing this logic.

doesn't the heavy discription say it can toe to toe with a vehicle

no i've been trying not to look at your ugly face

Source?