Infantry:

"Tanks need to stop coming in thinking they're invincible", Tankers die and lose millions coming in close with a squad and getting killed by suicide naders.
"Tanks need to stop hiding on the red line" Tankers hiding on the red line because of above.

Repeat.

the cooldown period could be like an overheat system draining the vehicle of any ability to use modules or recall until all module cooldowns have finished

Tanks that come down, die.

Tankers complain when they're on the front lines that they die far too quickly against a coherent team, Infantry cries at them and tells them to "Adapt or Die"

Tankers now sit up in the red line, adapting the way you and the other Infantry players have told us to, and yet now you cry that we've adapted and we should now throw that away and come down to lose a tank that is valued between 700,000 to 2,400,000 ISK.

Also, your respect won't buy us new tanks, kthx.

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That will make vehicle extremely-powerful or extremely-weak. Your idea push out low meta items and make proto-stuff more useful.

On my HAV I constantly have some module on cooldown. Infantry can shoot, run, fix each other armor in theory nearly as fast as HAV if several Logibro will lock them on RT, and they don't have any kind of cooldown, even if they re-supply they can constantly jump, shot everyone if face etc.

if i need to pay aprox 1.5 mill to use my madrugar or 2.5 for my vayu why should i be an easy kill? i SHOULD be the hardest thing to kill. but apparntly the chabrydis gets that trophy/glory. i mean really a JEEP is harden to kill than a big mother ******* HAV?

tanks are slower because they heavy so the time to get hits on them is bigger

tanks have more armor/shield than any LAV

lavs are faster because they smaller so the time to hit them is little

tank drivers can shoot long distance without changing seats

lav drivers cant shoot unless they switch places to a close range turret

if you park a lav and a tank and shoot them i doubt a tank would go boom first

basic stuff really you choose to ignore

iant talking about lavs bro. iam talike ab out the LOGISTICS lav. they take way more punishmnet than my maddy. i die to wykomi swarms/ ishkone forges but those chabbys (caldari LLAV) can apparently take more damage than my madrugar.

now if they only fixed rendering.

Right I mean i can see those turrets while on foot, but I get in a tank with zooming capabilities and suddenly I can't see them.

yes cuz LAVs sit still fo swarms or other means to destroy them , speed is a huge factor why you die in yo tank

you too slow

you can stop your pinochio act anytime now BRO

Do you realize that LLAV without any modules have 37% base resistance with Armor/Shield Upgrade skill on lvl5, and LLAV on lvl1? I guess no, because you think that "speed is a huge factor".
I need to hit Limbus 3 times with my pro-Railgun that have 3x10% dmg mods.

Just skill up HAV, LAV, DS all that stuff, play game for at least 2 months, then come on forums and produce equally interesting topics

We don't want to be invincible, we want to be competitive, not have 10k's worth of nades destroy over a million ISK. Between Av and invisble attacks, turret installations locking on and hitting from just about anywhere, the cheap shots are annoying.
We want our higher tier vehicles, y'all gots your proto gear

Maybe rather than post garbage, you understand the situation.

yes cuz LAVs sit still fo swarms or other means to destroy them , speed is a huge factor why you die in yo tank

you too slow

you can stop your pinochio act anytime now BRO

speed dosnt really affect swarms. i've even used my limbus and still get killed in 1-2 shots from a wykomi and thats with running a propulsion module. preeety anoying that those wykomis dont give a damm your running a rep.

settle this with sp ammount. how much do you have? i have 20 million sp and majority of it is in gallente hav's i basically have all lvl 5 srmour skills (exept for RR i dont use those) and all my turret skills are maxed except for lgr missiles (dont use them either) and i have lvl 3 shield skills every where. you tell me that with this sp ammount a LLAV can take more damge than me. if i come across the chabrydis i dont shoot it. i just slam into it if it gets to close.

SP doesnt matter here , im talking about avoiding swarms not outrunning them

let me guess , u take a corner and sit there?

yeah and avoiding them is either out running them going behind cover, killing the giuy laucnhing them. even if i go around a bend or behind cover i still get hit by those wykomi swamrs that do 90 degreee turns.

that depends on the distance the guy launched them from , if he was too close to you he most likely will fail and hit a corner

if he shot from far you most likely get hit because you will continue your route and swarms are after you and sometimes you get out behind your cover

unless you know his position all you have is guess

i have 2 characters , 1 is wirkomi and one is LLAV so i know both sides of the coin

get a tank and drive those around for a good 3 months then come back.

whats your point?

well obivulsoy your familair with av attacking your saftey box charbydris. get in a gunnlgoi or madrugar drive those and take some wykomi swarms and see how much eaiser you die than your saftey box.

thats because you basically a sitting target and i have time to empty my load in you and no one can stop me

get some defense with you aka infantry and play smart

dont go where a tank shouldnt be alone ala lone wolf rambo the terminator 5

i always miss tanks if i shoot from far , you need to be medium or if you can close distance to succesfully hit a tank

if you cant kill someone who is close to you from a fkin tank and if you are alone in that tank and alone in the area then the shame is on you

NEXT

makes sense that iam a sitting target while on the move and anyone that gets close is practially shredded by my scattered ion cannon. oh and even with the av the person can either be in a prto suit witht eh wykomi stacked with damge mods and be killed by the infantry but as sson as he fires the swarms and dies hes still going to hit hurt me bad or outright kill me. and majpority of the time the swarmers are either close to or in thier redline area where i cant get to. or they use high ass spires or use head glitching or sucide with laidai packed av nades on millita suits.

stop acting like you die from 1 shot

geez