there is a counter to everything , stop being lazy and find it

Prototype grenades do 910 damage against armor while doing 490 to shields.

Which I'm fine with, I just don't like that explosive spam is so easy to achieve without thinking in this game.

Giving up my armor Gallante suit for a Shield tanking Caldari should not be the answer.

Kind of like telling Dropship pilots to get out of the sky, to avoid Forge Guns.

then thats not the answer

try again

then thats not the answer

try again

An anti armor weapon being great against armor does not make it OP, it just means its doing its job. Its like a shield tanker saying flux grenades and scrambler rifles are OP because they completely destroy shields. You might as well be saying scissors is OP because it cuts paper.

Armor is getting HP buffs and speed penalty reduction very soon. Wait for the buff before calling for MD nerfs.

One thing I find odd is that in the devblog on weapon types and the weapon ranges, they said explosive weapons do 120% more against armor, not 130%. Perhaps there is a bug if its doing 130%.

You might as well be saying scissors is OP because it cuts paper.

An anti armor weapon being great against armor does not make it OP, it just means its doing its job. Its like a shield tanker saying flux grenades and scrambler rifles are OP because they completely destroy shields. You might as well be saying scissors is OP because it cuts paper.

Armor is getting HP buffs and speed penalty reduction very soon. Wait for the buff before calling for MD nerfs.

One thing I find odd is that in the devblog on weapon types and the weapon ranges, they said explosive weapons do 120% more against armor, not 130%. Perhaps there is a bug if its doing 130%.

Prototype grenades do 910 damage against armor while doing 490 to shields.

Which I'm fine with, I just don't like that assault rifle spam is so easy to achieve without thinking in this game.

They say same thing for swarms

120-135% damage swarms do to armor

Bonus for ppl but FG do 10% more damage to armor and -10% damage to shields

Fixed for you

You have no idea what it is...do you?

Grenades are fine, mostly because of the Flux destroying Shields, the Locus Destroys Armor. Plus anyone getting a proto nade is probably giving up a proto module or equipment.

I believe forge guns actually do just 100% to shields.

There are two hybrid weapons in this game, railguns and blasters. Blasters are the ones that give 110% against shields.

The type of damage, the amount of damage, the damage modifiers are not the problem.

It's just the mass spam atm, not the weapon, its the over use, being told to dodge the shots when its actually 10 mass driver rounds, 2 forge guns and 20 nades going off...dodge. Best way I have found to dodge is redline Thale sniping proto suits, making sure people aren't making money.

Alright, when an idiot can't aim at a target and all he has to do is shoot at the ground near you to do a tremendous amount of damage while disorienting your aiming then I'll agree with that.

Because MDs have to account for bullet drop, projectile speed, movement of target, his own elevation in relation to target.....

AR's just can be pointed at the enemy, spam R1, admire the 50 on your screen. Oh, and your getting aim assist.

Realize what the guy went through to make the shot.

'Fixing' a problem with another problem, red line sniping, is not the answer. There is no 'spam' of Mass Drivers. Right now, a solo Mass Driver user can kill a pack of three Armor tankers before they can be seen. I have been on both sides of this, it is wrong.

Is that not what the MD is for?

Suppressing groups of infantry, while excelling at dropping Armor units.

If it wasn't supposed to kill groups of armor, and keep groups of shield away from an area, what was it supposed to do?

You literally have to aim the lowest tick on the slightest your target. The round ALWAYS hits the lowest tick on the screen. The only thing you have to account for is projectile speed.

Hmm?

Have you tried the MD, sir?

Think of what you said, suppress. You are,suppose to suppress them, not kill them out right with half your clip.

Alright, when an idiot can't aim at a target and all he has to do is shoot at the ground near you to do a tremendous amount of damage while disorienting your aiming then I'll agree with that.