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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:45:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:there is a counter to everything , stop being lazy and find it
Giving up my armor Gallante suit for a Shield tanking Caldari should not be the answer. Kind of like telling Dropship pilots to get out of the sky, to avoid Forge Guns. then thats not the answer try again You have no idea what it is...do you?
Long Ranged Weapons.
Eventually, as he accounts for the drop, he will end up with you falling off screen.
Can't hit what you can't see. Use a ScR or a TAR. Better yet, do it on a higher ground. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:51:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Prototype grenades do 910 damage against armor while doing 490 to shields.
Which I'm fine with, I just don't like that assault rifle spam is so easy to achieve without thinking in this game. Fixed for you Alright, when an idiot can't aim at a target and all he has to do is shoot at the ground near you to do a tremendous amount of damage while disorienting your aiming then I'll agree with that.
Because MDs have to account for bullet drop, projectile speed, movement of target, his own elevation in relation to target.....
AR's just can be pointed at the enemy, spam R1, admire the 50 on your screen. Oh, and your getting aim assist.
Realize what the guy went through to make the shot. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:55:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:The type of damage, the amount of damage, the damage modifiers are not the problem.
It's just the mass spam atm, not the weapon, its the over use, being told to dodge the shots when its actually 10 mass driver rounds, 2 forge guns and 20 nades going off...dodge. Best way I have found to dodge is redline Thale sniping proto suits, making sure people aren't making money. 'Fixing' a problem with another problem, red line sniping, is not the answer. There is no 'spam' of Mass Drivers. Right now, a solo Mass Driver user can kill a pack of three Armor tankers before they can be seen. I have been on both sides of this, it is wrong.
Is that not what the MD is for?
Suppressing groups of infantry, while excelling at dropping Armor units.
If it wasn't supposed to kill groups of armor, and keep groups of shield away from an area, what was it supposed to do? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Prototype grenades do 910 damage against armor while doing 490 to shields.
Which I'm fine with, I just don't like that assault rifle spam is so easy to achieve without thinking in this game. Fixed for you Alright, when an idiot can't aim at a target and all he has to do is shoot at the ground near you to do a tremendous amount of damage while disorienting your aiming then I'll agree with that. Because MDs have to account for bullet drop, projectile speed, movement of target, his own elevation in relation to target..... AR's just can be pointed at the enemy, spam R1, admire the 50 on your screen. Oh, and your getting aim assist. Realize what the guy went through to make the shot. You literally have to aim the lowest tick on the slightest your target. The round ALWAYS hits the lowest tick on the screen. The only thing you have to account for is projectile speed.
Hmm?
Have you tried the MD, sir? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:12:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:The type of damage, the amount of damage, the damage modifiers are not the problem.
It's just the mass spam atm, not the weapon, its the over use, being told to dodge the shots when its actually 10 mass driver rounds, 2 forge guns and 20 nades going off...dodge. Best way I have found to dodge is redline Thale sniping proto suits, making sure people aren't making money. 'Fixing' a problem with another problem, red line sniping, is not the answer. There is no 'spam' of Mass Drivers. Right now, a solo Mass Driver user can kill a pack of three Armor tankers before they can be seen. I have been on both sides of this, it is wrong. Is that not what the MD is for? Suppressing groups of infantry, while excelling at dropping Armor units. If it wasn't supposed to kill groups of armor, and keep groups of shield away from an area, what was it supposed to do? Think of what you said, suppress. You are,suppose to suppress them, not kill them out right with half your clip.
It would suppress
Only dummy's get shot at and continue to run into fire.
If you run away, you can swap it out for a longer ranged gun and fire back at a safer range. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:18:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:
Hmm?
Have you tried the MD, sir?
Sir, yes sir! I have and it has been like this since at least Chromosome. Reason I scoff at the MD being hard to use. Get a Plasma Cannon and tell me about drop off. That thing actually has it.
I have tried the plasma cannon, and it is a beefed up MD, with a slow projectile, 1k damage , and one shot per clip
It's extremely hard to use. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
632
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:30:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Run away? Your telling me that the best way to beat an area denial weapon is to... Run away?
Mind you, most M.D. users are Scouts and Caldari med suits. Both of which beat Armor Tankers in speed.
Better to run away to fight another day then to let your pride rule you.
How do infantry survive tank engagements? You run away and get some gear to fight em off.
If the MD is chasing you, stop around a corner, and blow their face off in CQC. |
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