All I know is my poor scram rifles are doomed....

really it isn't that much more armour per level, now it's just that were not slow as hell anymore.

Armor buff. Discuss.

The question is, who would win?

Gallente heavy with a blaster heavy machine gun VS Heavy Armor Blaster Tank
Caldari heavy with an assault forge gun VS Heavy Shield Railgun Tank

Apparently Heavies will be able to get over 1600 hp after the buffs. That means they can survive a direct hit from a forge gun. Which is awesome.

All I know is my poor scram rifles are doomed....

Armor buff. Discuss.

considering that the heavy suit is designed to be able to go toe-to-toe with vehicles, so it really needs the armor.

Waiting for the day they allow the heavy to pull a hellboy with LAVs.

For reference : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kA0tg8hudw

Armor buff. Discuss.

The buff is for everyone. This is stupid. It would have made more sense if the bonuses for armour suits utilised the plates better.

All we have now is better plates with a decrease in movement penalties. A Caldari or mimitar assault will benefit from this buffs too.

This does nothing to differentiate the types of dropsuits.

I'd been wondering about this. Perhaps they still have a bunch of suit spec-related stuff to announce that will make armor plates more useful to Amarr/Gallente or whatever. As it stands, Minmatar Logis and Cal Logis have more low slots than Amarr Assaults... so it's not like there's a compelling advantage to the so-called "armor-tanking races".

Gallente logis can have up to 900 armor with the update.

Will they be slow? Absolutely. Will they still have a small body and be faster than a heavy with much more high slots and equipment? Yes, sadly.

considering that the heavy suit is designed to be able to go toe-to-toe with vehicles, so it really needs the armor.

Waiting for the day they allow the heavy to pull a hellboy with LAVs.

For reference : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kA0tg8hudw

The question is, who would win?

Gallente heavy with a blaster heavy machine gun VS Heavy Armor Blaster Tank
Caldari heavy with an assault forge gun VS Heavy Shield Railgun Tank

You ever been chased down by a heavy? cause that's gonna be a thing now. no longer can the scouts run away with all their delicious, baconlike suit insides!

The omnompocalypse is coming!

Wait, are they changing the explosive bonus to armor as well? Last I heard it was 130% and if it's still going to be that high, armor is still gonna suck.

Armour is more defensive and shields are more offensive, the buff will push armour into its role more.

armor is more offensive since it allows you to stack armor without losing damage mods

considering that the heavy suit is designed to be able to go toe-to-toe with vehicles, so it really needs the armor.

Waiting for the day they allow the heavy to pull a hellboy with LAVs.

For reference : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kA0tg8hudw

I'd been wondering about this. Perhaps they still have a bunch of suit spec-related stuff to announce that will make armor plates more useful to Amarr/Gallente or whatever. As it stands, Minmatar Logis and Cal Logis have more low slots than Amarr Assaults... so it's not like there's a compelling advantage to the so-called "armor-tanking races".

The buff is for everyone. This is stupid. It would have made more sense if the bonuses for armour suits utilised the plates better.

All we have now is better plates with a decrease in movement penalties. A Caldari or mimitar assault will benefit from this buffs too.

This does nothing to differentiate the types of dropsuits.

I'm caldari assault and i have not used armor plates since Uprising.Most players are already dual tanking,and we will see even more after armor plates buff.I am pretty happy with this since a lot of players are moving to anti armor wepons(mass drivers,smg,locus grenades,,,).I'm gonna stick to pure shield tanking until 1.5 shield nerf.

Armor buff. Discuss.

You ever been chased down by a heavy? cause that's gonna be a thing now. no longer can the scouts run away with all their delicious, baconlike suit insides!

The omnompocalypse is coming!

Ninja buff to heavies, hehehe


This will be fun on the field

Slow armor regen means it's no big deal.

An armor-tanked scout (i.e., a scout at its very slowest) should be able to gain 40 meters on a speed-tanked Sentinel with one sprint, if they start sprinting at the same time. And that's in just the first 12.5 seconds while the heavy is sprinting--the scout gets to keep going for another 7.5 seconds at more than twice the heavy's speed.

Not making any arguments, just thought I could shed some light on the numbers.

no, it's defensive since you need a significantly higher amount of time to regen it. and really, stacking damage mods does make sense from a defensive standpoint. What's the fastest way to break down the enemy's resolve at your gate? A nice, big, pile o' bodies you created from relative safety using cover from an entrenched position, and you have the health to withstand a coordinated push.

[quote=Heathen Bastard]U know right, slow walking and slower regen but higher hp is defensivelol, the lack of speed alone forces it to be effective defensively

thats only thinking of HP stat by itself when it is much more than that

Armor users - Allows damage mods without losing defensive stats, allowing users to power through an enemys offense while putting out much more damage than they can


Shield users - Allows stamina and sprint speed modules allowing the user to run farther faster, as well as allowing profile dampeners and scan radius amplifiers


the reason you think speed is defense is probably because you like to be in the open or around enemies and strafe from left to right

while i prefer the cover strategy which doesnt rely on speed only how much damage you can do and take

I will say this one more time.
Amarr Logistics is still king.

Thank you good sir, I rather like my proto amarr logi :p

considering that the heavy suit is designed to be able to go toe-to-toe with vehicles, so it really needs the armor.

Waiting for the day they allow the heavy to pull a hellboy with LAVs.

For reference : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kA0tg8hudw