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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:39:00 -
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you cant have a weapon like the mass driver with a high fire rate, lots of ammo or a fast reload. just watched the CoD trailer and even though i would never buy that piece of crap, its funny how they and bf3 both understand you cant have any explosive weapon with auto fire.
whatevs tho, I guess CCP has been making fps since never so maybe they know something everyone else doesnt.
cracks me up how CCP can add all this other complex background stuff but doesnt have the common sense to get stuff like this right. When this game is dead in 9 months pls remember your choice to be cheap and outsource your game to china and let people with no fps experience make your game killed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2uN1gwxM8o |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5715
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:41:00 -
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CCP was SURPRISED that the Flaylock was OP....
I just....
I can't even....
::smh::
We'll see how these next couple updates go, it's supposed to be a big shift all together, but we've been sold all kinds of false promises already, so we'll just have to wait and see. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1875
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:42:00 -
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*Sigh*
CoD is a low health shooter where all explosives are OHK.
DUST is a high health shooter and the MD is not a OHK weapon.
Two totally different beasts. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:46:00 -
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+1 agree. dont play CoD either but embarassing how it made this game look like crap. the grenade aiming reticle is really nice.
a mechanic that shows u where ur grenade will land? what a novel idea!!!
shows u how backwards the idiots here are that they dont have one. game has like 20 modes too. WTF ccp, its like this whole game is like one big troll. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
214
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:49:00 -
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A gun that shoots missiles won't be OP LOL. CCP is having the hardest time balancing anything out the gate, but we shall see if these next 2 updates restores balance to Dust. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
186
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:49:00 -
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Are you referring to the developers of the most successful franchise in gaming history as idiots? I'm no fanboy and don't even play it but really lol I wanna be an idiot:D |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1023
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:52:00 -
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9 months? Isn't that a bit generous, op? |
Ynned Ivanova
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:52:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:+1 agree. dont play CoD either but embarassing how it made this game look like crap. the grenade aiming reticle is really nice.
a mechanic that shows u where ur grenade will land? what a novel idea!!!
shows u how backwards the idiots here are that they dont have one. game has like 20 modes too. WTF ccp, its like this whole game is like one big troll.
Bugger off and play cod then, do you want your hand held or what?
Indicator to show where your nade lands? Do you also want a prompt to tell you when to shoot?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2976
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:53:00 -
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high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
385
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:53:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:you cant have a weapon like the mass driver with a high fire rate, lots of ammo or a fast reload. just watched the CoD trailer and even though i would never buy that piece of crap, its funny how they and bf3 both understand you cant have any explosive weapon with auto fire. whatevs tho, I guess CCP has been making fps since never so maybe they know something everyone else doesnt. cracks me up how CCP can add all this other complex background stuff but doesnt have the common sense to get stuff like this right. When this game is dead in 9 months pls remember your choice to be cheap and outsource your game to china and let people with no fps experience make your game killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2uN1gwxM8o
Perhaps you belong in COD? Srsly you seem to prefer the stuff that they are peddling. I even hear they have a great zombie mode for teenages!
Please don't throw any replies at me that have to do like I am not constructive and promote shrinking an already low fan base. Btw, not all base is fan. Not all base is even a base in the first place. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:58:00 -
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Just give the MD its old grenade physics it had in Chrome and everything will be fine. The slower grenades and arcing trajectory will stop people from running around with the EXO-5 like it's a shotgun because it'll be too clumsy to use in CQC. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
385
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:59:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:+1 agree. dont play CoD either but embarassing how it made this game look like crap. the grenade aiming reticle is really nice.
a mechanic that shows u where ur grenade will land? what a novel idea!!!
shows u how backwards the idiots here are that they dont have one. game has like 20 modes too. WTF ccp, its like this whole game is like one big troll.
Yeah I know COD got all cool guns and attachments - and tehy are all like real! You can even run around with a Nukelar weapon in COD. It got amazing aim assist that shoots stuff for you! COD shows you how to throw grenades and when to squeeze the trigger button. And btw AR is actually a useful weapon in COD. That COD game is amazing I tell you! |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
293
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:59:00 -
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Haha, "Mass Drivers are OP, CoD knows!"
/footage of a ******* drone one hit killing people remotely from the skies
Not pulling the cattle cry of "GO BACK TO COD YOU NOOB! DUST IS THE REALNESS", but seriously. CoD is all about making everyone feel incredibly good in one way or another at one time or another. No matter who you are. That's why its so popular.
And really, I don't think MDs are that crazy op. They have their moments, but as a whole, its totally nothing compared to the nonsense that happens in CoD games (or even Battlefield, or any of them really) |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3391
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:00:00 -
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i won't call people over at CoD idiots. Their game, like it or not, made billions.
CCP can make a good point and click MMO PC game, but in regards to a FPS, they have allot to learn. I thought the beta was a good trial and error period, but that proved to be nothing more than error and more errors.
I'm no dev, but explosive weapons in general are something that I feel should be a last resort, or secondary weapon. When you have a primary explosive weapon that has a magazine, with a radius of 3-4m, PLUS ADDITIONAL dmg being dealt to armor, is just plain stupid.
That kind of semi automatic noobery does not belong in FPS. |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:02:00 -
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Ynned Ivanova wrote: Indicator to show where your nade lands? Do you also want a prompt to tell you when to shoot?
u serious? every game has one lad, its called crosshairs |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
132
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:03:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Are you referring to the developers of the most successful franchise in gaming history as idiots? I'm no fanboy and don't even play it but really lol I wanna be an idiot:D
building a game that rewards the player who is the best at running solo isn't really a sign of intelligence it just shows they have a good marketing team that knows how to cater to the couple hundred million children that want to run and gun.
Get in a squad and use some tactics. |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher.
the point is, compare them to grenade launchers in an quality game. its too high, he's right. to argue it is pointless. to boot, each round requires a reload. only CCP in their infinite wisdom made one that was autofire.
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Vitoka79 from SVK
ZionTCD
63
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:06:00 -
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The Mass Driver is a cool weapon.It needs only a few tiny nerfs: -1m blast radius -10% fire rate
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:i won't call people over at CoD idiots. Their game, like it or not, made billions.
CCP can make a good point and click MMO PC game, but in regards to a FPS, they have allot to learn. I thought the beta was a good trial and error period, but that proved to be nothing more than error and more errors.
I'm no dev, but explosive weapons in general are something that I feel should be a last resort, or secondary weapon. When you have a primary explosive weapon that has a magazine, with a radius of 3-4m, PLUS ADDITIONAL dmg being dealt to armor, is just plain stupid.
That kind of semi automatic noobery does not belong in FPS.
This. Ever notice how the OP weapon of the month goes from AoE weapon to the next? CCP has no idea whatsoever how to do splash dmg. I dont even code and I know u cant reward someone with 80% of direct damage with splash. congrats, CCP you basically reward them for missing.
Reward Skill. Nothing but the grenade should do more than 30% of direct damage with splash.
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:14:00 -
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Exactly right. You give them no incentive to aim when direct damage is 165 and splash is 145. |
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
484
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:16:00 -
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Skihids wrote: *Sigh*
CoD is a low health shooter where all explosives are OHK.
DUST is a high health shooter and the MD is not a OHK weapon.
Two totally different beasts.
You're right. it's a 2hk weapon that can fire once a second, and doesn't give a directional hit marker to the target. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
186
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:17:00 -
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Mamertine Son wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Are you referring to the developers of the most successful franchise in gaming history as idiots? I'm no fanboy and don't even play it but really lol I wanna be an idiot:D building a game that rewards the player who is the best at running solo isn't really a sign of intelligence it just shows they have a good marketing team that knows how to cater to the couple hundred million children that want to run and gun. Get in a squad and use some tactics.
I forgot to mention the single player experience is also top notch. Also there are tactics and squadding involved over there just as much if not more than here don't be silly. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1880
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:18:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. the point is, compare them to grenade launchers in any quality game. its too high, he's right. to argue it is pointless. to boot, each shot in a real shooter requires a reload. only CCP in their infinite wisdom made one that was autofire.
Yes, let's compare the MD to any grenade launcher in any other game.
How many grenades does it take on average to kill an enemy in any other game? In any other game can somone hit you with a grenade and you spin around and down him with your rifle?
How does the DPS from any other game's rifle and grenade launcher compare? Are there any where the rifle puts out more DPS than the grenade launcher? |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
107
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. What about snipers? |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
302
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:25:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. What about snipers? Lol that too... |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
504
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:28:00 -
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This |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:31:00 -
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Yes, toss the MD into a CoD game and it would be ridiculously OP.
But then teleport a DUST merc with a basic Assault suit and an AR with operations level 2 into a CoD match and see what happens. Unmitigated slaughter. He would absorb all incoming fire regardless of the weapon, then mow everyone down with a single plasma round each. With 60 rounds in the magazine he wouldn't even have to reload once.
Context is everything. |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Prius Vecht wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:high RoF? Mass drivers have the lowest RoF out of all light weapons, except the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. the point is, compare them to grenade launchers in any quality game. its too high, he's right. to argue it is pointless. to boot, each shot in a real shooter requires a reload. only CCP in their infinite wisdom made one that was autofire. Yes, let's compare the MD to any grenade launcher in any other game. How many grenades does it take on average to kill an enemy in any other game? In any other game can somone hit you with a grenade and you spin around and down him with your rifle? How does the DPS from any other game's rifle and grenade launcher compare? Are there any where the rifle puts out more DPS than the grenade launcher?
friend, thats actually a bigger indictment of CCP.
Most people now agree that CCP would have been better served going low health for everyone rather than just new players. Tiercide is a great option they should consider rather than giving us a system where my 12M SP Logi can eat 4x the bullets than a new player.
that way skill the determining factor in wins.
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
188
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:33:00 -
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Nerf CoD! The expectations for Dust are way too high ahhhhhh! |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
161
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:34:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Skihids wrote: *Sigh*
CoD is a low health shooter where all explosives are OHK.
DUST is a high health shooter and the MD is not a OHK weapon.
Two totally different beasts.
You're right. it's a 2hk weapon that can fire once a second, and doesn't give a directional hit marker to the target. Leaves a visual smoke trail and doesn't 2HK my STD armor suit unless proto and/or dmg modded. Even when using an EXO-5 w/damage mods I'm only 2HK'ing scouts. And 2 seconds is a lot longer than it takes for a well aimed AR/SCR to do the same job. |
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