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Farlo O'Lraf TransLegio 4	Posted - 2013.08.15 01:33:00 - [31] - Quote Will there be any "official" stream or video of these matches or do we have to wait for individual participants to upload stuff to YouTube?
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.08.15 04:43:00 - [32] - Quote Any tips on how to fix the lag problem? I haven't lagged that hard since the closed beta, and to be honest, I don't think I even lagged that hard in the closed beta.
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 37	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:20:00 - [33] - Quote so yesterday delta force some how ended up one our team and kept a squad from joining for the first 3 mins, which was crazy that it was possible but i can see it glitching because they were our opponent, but again today against a different opponent , who was in our war barge on our team , Delt force, kindly tho today when mailed and asked they left, all i can say is how and why
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 37	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:22:00 - [34] - Quote secondly why is the NA day 1 not being scrapped i mean you changed FF on, that changes the entire gameplay of the match, out comes would have been different and your already scrapping EU day 1
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 583	Posted - 2013.08.15 06:45:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Prangstar RND wrote: Do we play the third match when we won the first two? We run it, but technically it would be optional as you already have it 2-(1). If you destroyed your enemies earlier, who's to say no to free ISK? Plus beating someone 3-0 is always sweeter than 2-1. If playing the third match doesn't matter, how is it possible that some teams have 3 points after 1 round played, whereas other teams only have 2 points on the NA leaderboard? As of this post, you'll notice Ahrendee Mercenaries has 2 points and 1 point conceded. How did we concede a point if we won both of the first two matches in a best out of a three where the third game doesn't count? Also, OuterHeaven has 3 points yet only one game played. I'm guessing the third game counts in the standings.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 241	Posted - 2013.08.15 09:58:00 - [36] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: EDIT: Just as confusing is the fact that Kill Em Quick has 2 rounds tallied, both as wins, yet somehow only has 3 points. How is that possible? First round, we won the first match and for the second and third ones the other team didn-¦t show. Second round, we won 2 and lost 1. We have 3 points. Apparently, no shows give you no points at all. That's a bad idea, because some teams can affect the tournament result by no showing against some teams (thus denying them any points), and showing and losing against others, giving points in the second case. That in the case that points matter at all, which I don't know :p
Heavenly Daughter No Free Pass 106	Posted - 2013.08.15 10:58:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: JW v Weingarten wrote: So i gotta get my guys on an extra day because the enemy team did not read the rules? yeaaaah more grind The EU match reruns are solely due to the matches being started an hour early which meant some teams weren't online at the time. An hour early, I played my first match here in the UK at 9:40/50pm opposition team no showed, same applied to the second match. Was that time not correct. ?
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 1240	Posted - 2013.08.15 12:32:00 - [38] - Quote Great changes +1 Significant improvements from round 1 to round 2. Hopefully all the kinks will be ironed out by friday and we can all get settled in to this tournament! It would be great if some instructions for reporting on the UF site could be posted, as its not very clear to say the least. Also great communication CCP Logibro, this is how this tournament will succeed. Now to get everyone to show and be ready for a real battle!
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2013.08.15 14:32:00 - [39] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Great changes +1 Significant improvements from round 1 to round 2. Hopefully all the kinks will be ironed out by friday and we can all get settled in to this tournament! It would be great if some instructions for reporting on the UF site could be posted, as its not very clear to say the least. Also great communication CCP Logibro, this is how this tournament will succeed. Now to get everyone to show and be ready for a real battle! Chicago, report here, http://www.urgentfury.com/ladders.php?do=challenges&mid=1244#match1244 as far as i could understand it allows the upload of 1 image or screenshot and it needs either the enemy team or CCP confirmation
Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 22	Posted - 2013.08.15 16:21:00 - [40] - Quote NoxMort3m wrote: secondly why is the NA day 1 not being scrapped i mean you changed FF on, that changes the entire gameplay of the match, out comes would have been different and your already scrapping EU day 1 While I love the changes made i do have to agree with this post. FF being turned on is a HUGE game changing rule change. I agree with what he suggested. CCP response would be greatly appreciated.

Ananda Yhufir Contract Hunters 0	Posted - 2013.08.15 17:56:00 - [41] - Quote Logibro, thank you for your work. As CHICAGOCUBS4EVER said previously, HUGE improvements between round one and round two. I have 2 issues I'd like to see addressed, both of which have already been brought up here: 1) How is scoring going to be calculated? The reason I'm concerned is because, in our case, we lost our 2 games to Teamplayers and didnt realize there would be a third match. A few of us had logged off by the time the third match showed up and we played anyways (why not? more practice on the field and they already won the match so we have nothing more to lose, right?). The UF board doesn't seem to have any outline of the scoring but, from what I've read here, we are more penalized for playing the third match and TP is credited with the third match which doesn't really count since we had already lost best of 3. Also, there definitely needs to be a standard way of reporting wins/losses on UF so a team wont report a single win for the best of 3 - indicating they won the "match", versus reporting 2 wins in a best of 3, or 3 wins in a best of 3. Obviously the same applies for the losing side. 2) The friendly fire addition in round 2 is a little bit... unfair... to round one participants. I believe that our team would not have been greatly effected, nor would Teamplayers, nor do I believe any team in this would have had a drastically different result. But it COULD change game outcomes and definitely effects personal stats. I don't believe UF or CCP is counting individual stats in this tourney but it would still be a good idea to keep things uniform across the board so everyone feels like they're being measured with the same ruler. Again, I'm not complaining. I don't believe our team needs a rematch because of this (we were beat well and honorably) but a rematch in the interest of consistency may be in the best interest of everyone - UNLESS all round one teams agree UNANIMOUSLY that this is unecessary. For the teams with No-Shows and various glitches I imagine they might want a 2nd chance at things once the kinks are truly ironed out. That is something I would, if I had the power, strongly consider granting. Now, if those teams are backing out completely, it's a different matter. I guess the most democratic way to resolve round one problems would be to put the question to each of the involved teams. If any team in a match requests a rematch, I believe they should be granted one. If both teams agree a rematch is unecessary then that's their prerogative. Thanks again for your efforts in making this work. I, for one, really enjoy the competition so far and hope to see it work out to everyone's satisfaction (win or lose). Take care and GL everyone!

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 481	Posted - 2013.08.16 15:57:00 - [42] - Quote Alright, sorry for taking so long to get back to you guys, busy day today. Scoring: The only thing scored is the overall result of the best of three. This means that a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win. The main number you should be looking at is the total XP - don't worry about Total Points. You get 75xp for win, 25 for draw and 10 for a loss. If your opponent no-shows for the first two matches we won't run the third and you should get the victory for that match. Also just to clear something up: Round refers to each of the three (or seven in the finals) games played. A match refers to the group of rounds (again three rounds except in the finals where it's seven). As for the friendly fire and also having NA rematches, we'll take it under consideration, but I can give no guarantees. Friendly fire will however remain on for the remainder of the tournament. If you guys have any other inquiries you can feel free to keep posting them. For individual issues with your teams preferably have your team leader submit a support ticket in the DUST Community & Forums queue (be careful to not put it in the EVE "Community" queue or the Marketing queue, as it will take longer for me to respond if it's there.) (As for the DF guy that kept showing up in the DL514 matches, that should be sorted today. If not, give me a yell in the DUST 514 Tournament channel if I'm there and I'll go attack the gremlins in the server room with a Plasma Projector) CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Ananda Yhufir Contract Hunters 0	Posted - 2013.08.16 16:16:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Alright, sorry for taking so long to get back to you guys, busy day today. Scoring: The only thing scored is the overall result of the best of three. This means that a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win. The main number you should be looking at is the total XP - don't worry about Total Points. You get 75xp for win, 25 for draw and 10 for a loss. ... Thanks for getting back to us at all. So, to be clear; each round won = 75XP or each *match* won = 75XP? (I imagine whatever the answer is applies to losses and draws as well).

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 483	Posted - 2013.08.16 16:17:00 - [44] - Quote Ananda Yhufir wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Alright, sorry for taking so long to get back to you guys, busy day today. Scoring: The only thing scored is the overall result of the best of three. This means that a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win. The main number you should be looking at is the total XP - don't worry about Total Points. You get 75xp for win, 25 for draw and 10 for a loss. ... Thanks for getting back to us at all. So, to be clear; each round won = 75XP or each *match* won = 75XP? (I imagine whatever the answer is applies to losses and draws as well). Match. Like I said, a 2-1 win is no different to a 3-0 win. (I will edit it to make it clearer) CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

olssam 62 What The French CRONOS. 50	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:55:00 - [45] - Quote What the french vs rust 415 What the french win 3 - 0 gg rust 415
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 218	Posted - 2013.08.16 22:06:00 - [46] - Quote EU has a round of rematches as well remember

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 498	Posted - 2013.08.16 22:23:00 - [47] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: EU has a round of rematches as well remember Yes we know. Still deciding on the dates for that, will hopefully be sorted by Tuesday. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 218	Posted - 2013.08.16 22:39:00 - [48] - Quote Thanks for the updates. Is this actually a tournament or a league? Also the EU board hasnt been updated at all, any idea whats going on there?

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.08.16 22:49:00 - [49] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Thanks for the updates. Is this actually a tournament or a league? Also the EU board hasnt been updated at all, any idea whats going on there? If you guys haven't been posting the results then it won't be updated yet. I'll be forwarding the results we've got to UF after the NA rounds today. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2013.08.16 22:59:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Thanks for the updates. Is this actually a tournament or a league? Also the EU board hasnt been updated at all, any idea whats going on there? If you guys haven't been posting the results then it won't be updated yet. I'll be forwarding the results we've got to UF after the NA rounds today. Logibro, we have been posting the results, but so far we are still with 0 rounds on the board. Mondays match will be rematched (altough the Venezuela Corp did not show up), wednesday we won 3-0 against Ninth Legion Freelance, and today we had also a no show by Academy Inferno. If our oponnents dont post the results its not our fault.


CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:00:00 - [51] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Thanks for the updates. Is this actually a tournament or a league? Also the EU board hasnt been updated at all, any idea whats going on there? If you guys haven't been posting the results then it won't be updated yet. I'll be forwarding the results we've got to UF after the NA rounds today. Logibro, we have been posting the results, but so far we are still with 0 rounds on the board. Mondays match will be rematched (altough the Venezuela Corp did not show up), wednesday we won 3-0 against Ninth Legion Freelance, and today we had also a no show by Academy Inferno. If our oponnents dont post the results its not our fault. In that case it will get fixed when we forward the results to UF. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:03:00 - [52] - Quote Thank you.
Ananda Yhufir Contract Hunters 0	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:19:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Ananda Yhufir wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Alright, sorry for taking so long to get back to you guys, busy day today. Scoring: The only thing scored is the overall result of the best of three. This means that a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win. The main number you should be looking at is the total XP - don't worry about Total Points. You get 75xp for win, 25 for draw and 10 for a loss. ... Thanks for getting back to us at all. So, to be clear; each round won = 75XP or each *match* won = 75XP? (I imagine whatever the answer is applies to losses and draws as well). Match. Like I said, a 2-1 win is no different to a 3-0 win. (I will edit it to make it clearer) Sorry, Logibro, I must not have been clear: What I mean is, do we get 75XP if we go 2-0 or do we get 150XP for going 2-0? (75XP per match or per round?)
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 219	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:26:00 - [54] - Quote Ananda Yhufir wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Ananda Yhufir wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Alright, sorry for taking so long to get back to you guys, busy day today. Scoring: The only thing scored is the overall result of the best of three. This means that a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win. The main number you should be looking at is the total XP - don't worry about Total Points. You get 75xp for win, 25 for draw and 10 for a loss. ... Thanks for getting back to us at all. So, to be clear; each round won = 75XP or each *match* won = 75XP? (I imagine whatever the answer is applies to losses and draws as well). Match. Like I said, a 2-1 win is no different to a 3-0 win. (I will edit it to make it clearer) Sorry, Logibro, I must not have been clear: What I mean is, do we get 75XP if we go 2-0 or do we get 150XP for going 2-0? (75XP per match or per round?) Per match, ie if you win 3-0 or 2-1 you get 75xp
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1559	Posted - 2013.08.17 09:03:00 - [55] - Quote if a 2-1 win is the same as a 3-0 win, then why don't you stop the matches when a team wins twice... you guys suck at this
Takeshi Ryu SNG DUST CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.17 09:12:00 - [56] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Thanks for the updates. Is this actually a tournament or a league? Also the EU board hasnt been updated at all, any idea whats going on there? If you guys haven't been posting the results then it won't be updated yet. I'll be forwarding the results we've got to UF after the NA rounds today. Logibro, we have been posting the results, but so far we are still with 0 rounds on the board. Mondays match will be rematched (altough the Venezuela Corp did not show up), wednesday we won 3-0 against Ninth Legion Freelance, and today we had also a no show by Academy Inferno. If our oponnents dont post the results its not our fault. Yeah, gg Tech Guard
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 226	Posted - 2013.08.17 11:53:00 - [57] - Quote Lol our attempt to grab some awesome loot failed
Takeshi Ryu SNG DUST CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.17 12:07:00 - [58] - Quote Next time, buddy
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 226	Posted - 2013.08.17 12:09:00 - [59] - Quote what happened to academy inferno?
Takeshi Ryu SNG DUST CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.17 12:18:00 - [60] - Quote I suppose they decide to ignore this BETA-tournament, it's too...unprepared. Anyway ask them yourself if you need some answers PS Sorry for my English, it's not my native language



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