Honestly, I would rather have them turn those "Mercenary" battle into sort of an "instant battle/Faction Warfare" for proto suits. With higher/unique rewards.

Although I do understand why you want tiericide (it's to help with new player retention, correct?), I believe there are better ways to solve that problem such as PVE, matchmaking, and getting skilled players OUT of instant battle and INTO Faction Warfare.

The whole of the game is broke. By making everything the same you are not going to fix it. Maybe we should just have the same stats on everything, that way people can just pick the suits and weapons that they think look the coolest and leave it at that. Let all your skills change your combat effectiveness and there you go, no more proto stompings.

Tiericide is not about making everything same.
The power level is supposed to be roughly the same yes, but the things in question could be very different indeed. A poor example would be shotgun and an AR, both light weps and usable but radically different roles/uses.

Tiericide affects more the same general category of things, like five different guns of increasing power levels but no handicaps whatsoever, they are good to inspect with tiericide in mind.

If there is any thing which is totally obsolete because there is by all counts a better version of it, then tiericide is gonna cure it.

I recently found out that some people still don't get tiercide....... That's just sad.


tiercide- The act of murdering tiers.

You get rid of any tiers in the game, or at least anything that overpowers something else over a wide scale, then make a verity of variants for those things.

ex. the T I Gallente BC's in EVE are called the Brutix, Myrmidon, and Talos. If my memory serves me right, when EVE was under the tier system, the Talos was the "PROTO" Gallente BC, Myrmidon was the "ADV.", and and the Brutix was the "STD" . And, although slightly different, just like now with dust, the Talos was the best to use. When tiercide happened, they were rebalanced, and (although imo the Myrmidon is now the best, cuz' drones), they all have their roles, one being the CQ DPS monster, one being the medium range support, and one being the Long range sniper.

Now that (hopefully) the fools that don't get it do, I will say how I think it should go down: All PROTO weapons, turrets, equipment, and frames should be deleted. After, some things should happen:

For weapons and turrets: Only have one kind of gun, and call it something neat, for example, the GEK-38 Plasma Rifle. From there, we will do a mass change to all of the weapons and turrets, making them T III equipment. What that means in simple terms is add weapon customization. Do the same for vehicle turrets. Now, add AUR variants that have prefits of the weapon modules on them, and make them to where they're similar/same as the variants as we have today. Make them cost no SP.

For suit Frames and vehicle hulls: Get rid of the ADV. and PROTO ones, and add variants that have slight changes to them, like speed, scanning, etc. then give them bonuses for their specific role, like a slight reduction to equipment, or a ROF bonus/level.

For T II frames and hulls: Same as the T I ones, but give them more of a reason to exist other than being just flat out better; a defined role. Like taking away sidearms from most Logis isn't a good idea, but making their weapons weaker, but making the equipment more efficient. ex. There should be a Logi-like T I frame. It wouldn't out-preform it in Logi roles, but if it got in a fight with a Logi frame, it would win, unless the Logi is a good fighter, or gets lucky.


For modules and equipment: Modules should stay as is (tier wise), as I see nothing wrong with them being like that. Equipment should get rid of the STD and PROTO versions, and keep the ADV versions.

Now balance for CPU/PG.


Peace, Aizen

Bullshit about the Talos being superior before tiercide and you know it

Just because it was/is T III, doesn't mean anything. It was superior, and is now balanced.

Also, I don't remember getting my ass handed by a Brutix ever. I would always out tank the things, then roast them with sentries (or if they were too close, heavy drones), and snipe then with Rails.

Lastly, I didn't say Dust was ready, I said it should happen, but hope it would come soon.

PROTO stomps would be non existent,

Proto gear costs more. You want advantage, you pay for for it. That is the balancing factor. You want to stop getting proto stomped, buy your own proto suits and organize a team. Making everything "different" but all the same power is the same thing as just removing stat and slot difference. Tiercide in DUST will not work, because their are no tiers. A basic suit should not be the same as a proto assault. It makes no sense to put so many SP into something that is not better. And if you do go ahead and nerf higher level suits, then you better make SP effect suits that much more or else it would be pointless to even level past the basic. Tiercide is dumb, and you are as well for thinking that is the problem with this game.

trollolol very funny

Look, again, the only way it works is if you remove tiers for suits but retain tiers for modules, equipment, and weapons.

Different tiers of gear is part of what makes the whole fitting system work. If you take those out, you severely limit that normally almost limitless potential.

Notice that though the went through and removed tiers from ships in EVE, they never looked at removing them for equipment, because that would wreck the fitting system.

Mobius here is exactly right.

The reason is that modules and suits are very different:

Better modules have greater power but also higher fitting costs (PG/CPU)
Suits and vehicle hulls are frames onto which modules are built on. Better frames have more fitting and slots.


That means better frames are absolutely more powerful.
Whereas modules are balanced by the fitting costs (and some other extra costs such as shield or movement penalty)

In many cases it's a no-brainer to choose the most powerful thing. A no-brainer is bad for gameplay.
The very essence of tiericide is to fix that and not to have obsolete frames. Surely everyone can agree that is good, right?

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