All these "nerf the assault MD" because it "takes no skill" are so ridiculous. It doesn't do enough damage to be a viable killer, but it can be an effective area denial weapon. Stop getting "OP" confused with "different".

Mass Driver: Good for a few contacts at a time, best at 1 on 1 engagements
Assault Mass Driver: Great for going up against groups of players with a squad of your own
Breach Mass Driver: Light AV weapon.

Trust me, I've taken down tanks with over 7k hp using a flux to knock their shields down and the breach to keep chewing at their armor. All of them are situational weapons, and all of them work fine at doing what they're intended to do. I do wish the breach did a lot more splash damage and was more of a "skill" weapon that could be used on the battlefield as well.

And all 3 have the field longevity of a FG if you don't carry nanohives and near useless against shield tankers without flux grenades. Never knew a weapon that needs 2 other pieces of equipment could be OP.

I think it's funny that Mass Drivers are called OP, yet you can kill a heavy in less than 3 seconds with an AR from halfway across the map. Whenever I encounter a Mass Driver user, I already know all of their weaknesses and what my plan of attack is. People just try and take on a Mass Driver like they would an AR, which is why they're so effective.

Welcome to the problem behind every "X is OP!" trend. Most AR users want to waltz safely between objectives having "fair fights" with other ARs with zerg rushing head on as their only tactic. They try to degrade the users of other weapons with misused terms while trying to over glorify that their weapon that gives them a damn hit marker to point and shoot at something requires some level of extra required skill... in a video game. Kind of silly really.

Beren I Aim for the Head. It's a wonderful sound. Makes me Feel OP when i get a Headshot with a MD.

Mass Driver: Good for a few contacts at a time, best at 1 on 1 engagements
Assault Mass Driver: Great for going up against groups of players with a squad of your own
Breach Mass Driver: Light AV weapon.

Trust me, I've taken down tanks with over 7k hp using a flux to knock their shields down and the breach to keep chewing at their armor. All of them are situational weapons, and all of them work fine at doing what they're intended to do. I do wish the breach did a lot more splash damage and was more of a "skill" weapon that could be used on the battlefield as well.

Also, think of the mass driver as a shotgun. It's only effective at close range or from heights, so don't let the player get the advantage on you. Also, concentrated fire on a mass driver user is even more effective. I die mostly when I encounter a squad of enemies that kill me before I can get 2 shots in.

hmmm.....mass driver is currently being demonstrated to be beyond the expectations of a nube tube, but this is due to an issue with double buffing them in recent patches.

the aoe of the weapons are supposedly larger then they should be.

either way they are currently being used by full teams of experienced proto users, weapons like these should be simple to use, but unrewarding in the long term, as it currently stands these weapons are working better then the previously nerfed flaylock, it deserves a similar light nerf to bring it in line with where it should be.

hmmm.....mass driver is currently being demonstrated to be beyond the expectations of a nube tube, but this is due to an issue with double buffing them in recent patches.

the aoe of the weapons are supposedly larger then they should be.

either way they are currently being used by full teams of experienced proto users, weapons like these should be simple to use, but unrewarding in the long term, as it currently stands these weapons are working better then the previously nerfed flaylock, it deserves a similar light nerf to bring it in line with where it should be.

I feel sort of cheap and dirty many times, the Freedom MD which I use is simply put; way too good.

Any MD user with a little respect for themselves will admit that the EXO-5 and its equivalent enhanced assault MD is more than "good enough".

I went 29-0 with that last night. I am not even a MD user. I use it just to show people how OP it is. I couldn't comment on it till i used it.

Now about the shield stacked person, it only takes me one shot to kill them. Heard about the the Flux ?! Heavies would die before the 8 round clip ends. Guess what, the negative splash damage doesn't affect me much, i'm caldari lol

All you mostly scrub non-factors (excuse my honesty) that comes here and bring one argument after the other about it not being OP for this or that reason. Tell me this:

- Why is it that so many of the elite players of this game can just spend more or less the minimum of skillpoints in it and go into a game and more or less dominate with it?



If the current development continues we might end up with explosive spam being he norm in Dust. Do we really want that?

Want to know what I want? Less arrogant elitists like yourself telling me how to play in the sandbox.

Nerf op arrogant elitists nao!

All you mostly scrub non-factors (excuse my honesty) that comes here and bring one argument after the other about it not being OP for this or that reason. Tell me this:

- Why is that so many of the elite plAyers of this game can just spene or less the minimum of skillpoints in it and go into a game and more or less dominate with it?


current development continues we might end up with explosive spam being he norm in Dust. Do we really want that?

No one is telling anybody how to play the sandbox.

I'm merely stating that as far as I know, many good players can merely unlock the weapon and play extremely well with it. And note the use of "unlock" as opposed to "skill into".

Its simply too good in its current state, no excuse from bad players will ever change my mind on this matter....

Okay, we get it, you're a fail troll. You can stop posting now.


Anyway, I got a level 4 assault rifle I tend to use it more. But what I mainly use now is my scout suit with smg and nova knife with remote explosives. Mad much? Lol, if anyone can't aim with the assault rifle that's pathetic since it's literally the easiest gun to use in the game. Nice try kiddo, and i still managed to take out protos with just std gear from the elite pack, so I guess my aiming is on point because I have less survivability than most of you proto stompers. Next time you try to troll make sure you know what I run most of the time. Go back under the bridge fail troll.

Thanks.

And all 3 have the field longevity of a FG if you don't carry nanohives and near useless against shield tankers without flux grenades. Never knew a weapon that needs 2 other pieces of equipment could be OP.

Except it has a slower RoF than the shotgun, lower DPS than the shotgun, while being next to useless if you're off a few inches. I honestly thing the Breach needs a RoF buff.

I think assault is kinda OP. The normal one is fine and breach does not work.

And yet, people still complain about the Swarm Launcher. Even though it needs AV/Flux nades and nano hive.

So ... you have to use a grenade, hope it hits the guy in the shields, then hit him with a few MD rounds.

Didja do the same math with your "not OP nope nope nope" ARs?

Didja do the same experiment using core locus grendades?

You specifically cite that a dude who stacks 600 shields, has them all wiped out by a grenade designed to do that, and is 1 shotted through his ~150 armor is an OP thing. Did you reread what you typed out? Let me spell it out for you. A person with 0 shields, and ~150 armor is going to die in a few shots vs ANY WEAPON SYSTEM IN THE GAME.

Try harder next time.