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Justin Tymes
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:26:00 -
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Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:33:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP. Assault takes skill breach sucks and takes more skill. Assault takes even less skill than the normal MD, it's just that its damage output is even more lacklustre.
Assault MD in CQC against anything except a scout without a shotgun. Yes, it takes skill to use as a main weapon. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:49:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Breach is good if you know how to use it. It's the minmatar shotgun.
Except it has a slower RoF than the shotgun, lower DPS than the shotgun, while being next to useless if you're off a few inches. I honestly thing the Breach needs a RoF buff. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:14:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP. So you are telling me that EC3 is not OP?
Of course it's not OP, you will never kill a someone with stacked Complex shield mods or a Heavy with a single clip, and get in 10 meters and you can kill him with anything. It's the best support weapon in the game, but it's not OP. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:17:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I use MDs when playing on US servers when the lag is bad or when I'm just way too drunk to do anything with an AR. (And I've hardly put any points in it, proff lvl2)
I feel sort of cheap and dirty many times, the Freedom MD which I use is simply put; way too good.
IMO they should remove the Freedom and the equivalent Assault MD and make them officer salvage weapons.
The EXO-5 and its equivalent assault MD would be the new proto's with the same cost as the current protos.
The current standard will be elevated to enhanced and they'll have to make a new one to fill the standard gap.
Any MD user with a little respect for themselves will admit that the EXO-5 and its equivalent enhanced assault MD is more than "good enough".
IMO this would be a fine first step in balancing the weapon, something need to be done IMO.
- I've suggested the same for the locus nades, the Core Locus nade is too powerfull and deadly. This needs to be done after the "fix" to aiming and hit detection.
We might end up with a game where anything which explodes is the default best way to go, as is nearly the case now, I certainly don't want it and I hope you don't aswell.
Except there is nothing wrong with Boundless Assault MD. Why not remove Dev Assault, since it's melting heavies in less than 2 seconds? |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:40:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP. So you are telling me that EC3 is not OP? Of course it's not OP, you will never kill a someone with stacked Complex shield mods or a Heavy with a single clip, and get in 10 meters and you can kill him with anything. It's the best support weapon in the game, but it's not OP. I went 29-0 with that last night. I am not even a MD user. I use it just to show people how OP it is. I couldn't comment on it till i used it. Now about the shield stacked person, it only takes me one shot to kill them. Heard about the the Flux ?! Heavies would die before the 8 round clip ends. Guess what, the negative splash damage doesn't affect me much, i'm caldari lol
Bragging about going x-0 once in pubs is not proving whether a weapon is OP or not. The flux argument has already been refuted countless times on the forum. It is a completely different element that is irrelevant since everything is dying after a flux, hell ARs kill heavies faster with a Flux than MDs can. You could say someone using a laser rifle could kill someone with 20 HP after using a Lotus Grenade, but what does this say about the laser rifle, except that it can finish someone off after a Lotus Grenade? |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:02:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:I get it. You are having too much fun with it. But please. I know a lot of people who specced into it just to see why it kills them so fast with such less effort
I've been using the MD since Open Beta, extensively used all 3 variants in Chrome and Uprising pre-patch, so I know what I'm talking about compared to someone who admittingly doesn't even use the MD. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:37:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:NAV HIV wrote:I get it. You are having too much fun with it. But please. I know a lot of people who specced into it just to see why it kills them so fast with such less effort I've been using the MD since Open Beta, extensively used all 3 variants in Chrome and Uprising pre-patch, so I know what I'm talking about compared to someone who admittingly doesn't even use the MD. So you will say that a EC3, Freedom or even a boundless is not OP? Ok just for your sake i wont call it OP. Let's just call it a very easy weapon to get some easy kills. Clearly a guy spamming explosive rounds constantly is there to play the "Support" role.
Why would it be? Someone using EC3 or Boundless will be terrible in CQC, you will most likely be killing an already injured enemy with it since it takes an entire clip to even close to that point. So working as intended. Standard is debatable like I've said in previous threads. I would love to give standard the RoF of the Breach and the Breach the RoF of the standard, I think this would solve pretty much everything as far as making the Standard a support weapon that's still usable in CQC, and making the Breach viable instead of being overshadowed by the Standard. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:08:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Mass Driver: Good for a few contacts at a time, best at 1 on 1 engagements Assault Mass Driver: Great for going up against groups of players with a squad of your own Breach Mass Driver: Light AV weapon.
Trust me, I've taken down tanks with over 7k hp using a flux to knock their shields down and the breach to keep chewing at their armor. All of them are situational weapons, and all of them work fine at doing what they're intended to do. I do wish the breach did a lot more splash damage and was more of a "skill" weapon that could be used on the battlefield as well.
Also, think of the mass driver as a shotgun. It's only effective at close range or from heights, so don't let the player get the advantage on you. Also, concentrated fire on a mass driver user is even more effective. I die mostly when I encounter a squad of enemies that kill me before I can get 2 shots in.
The problem is that Standard, especially Freedom, is doing the same thing, while Standard is was better due to superior RoF + splash. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Mass Driver: Good for a few contacts at a time, best at 1 on 1 engagements Assault Mass Driver: Great for going up against groups of players with a squad of your own Breach Mass Driver: Light AV weapon.
Trust me, I've taken down tanks with over 7k hp using a flux to knock their shields down and the breach to keep chewing at their armor. All of them are situational weapons, and all of them work fine at doing what they're intended to do. I do wish the breach did a lot more splash damage and was more of a "skill" weapon that could be used on the battlefield as well. And all 3 have the field longevity of a FG if you don't carry nanohives and near useless against shield tankers without flux grenades. Never knew a weapon that needs 2 other pieces of equipment could be OP. And yet, people still complain about the Swarm Launcher. Even though it needs AV/Flux nades and nano hive.
I haven't heard of people complain about Swarm Launchers since the start of Uprising. |
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