Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP.

Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP.

Assault takes skill breach sucks and takes more skill.

Assault takes even less skill than the normal MD, it's just that its damage output is even more lacklustre.

Breach is good if you know how to use it. It's the minmatar shotgun.

Why don't people ever mention them in MD QQ threads? They want a complete nerf across the board without even discussing other variants, and I know for a fact that these 2 are not OP, in fact, 1 of them is UP.

I use MDs when playing on US servers when the lag is bad or when I'm just way too drunk to do anything with an AR. (And I've hardly put any points in it, proff lvl2)

I feel sort of cheap and dirty many times, the Freedom MD which I use is simply put; way too good.

IMO they should remove the Freedom and the equivalent Assault MD and make them officer salvage weapons.

The EXO-5 and its equivalent assault MD would be the new proto's with the same cost as the current protos.

The current standard will be elevated to enhanced and they'll have to make a new one to fill the standard gap.

Any MD user with a little respect for themselves will admit that the EXO-5 and its equivalent enhanced assault MD is more than "good enough".

IMO this would be a fine first step in balancing the weapon, something need to be done IMO.



- I've suggested the same for the locus nades, the Core Locus nade is too powerfull and deadly. This needs to be done after the "fix" to aiming and hit detection.

We might end up with a game where anything which explodes is the default best way to go, as is nearly the case now, I certainly don't want it and I hope you don't aswell.

Lol? You know this won't happen lol. Remove the douv assault rifle. They certainly take out everything

So you are telling me that EC3 is not OP?

Okay, we get it, you can't aim. You can stop posting now.

Thanks.

I use MDs when playing on US servers when the lag is bad or when I'm just way too drunk to do anything with an AR. (And I've hardly put any points in it, proff lvl2)

I feel sort of cheap and dirty many times, the Freedom MD which I use is simply put; way too good.

IMO they should remove the Freedom and the equivalent Assault MD and make them officer salvage weapons.

The EXO-5 and its equivalent assault MD would be the new proto's with the same cost as the current protos.

The current standard will be elevated to enhanced and they'll have to make a new one to fill the standard gap.

Any MD user with a little respect for themselves will admit that the EXO-5 and its equivalent enhanced assault MD is more than "good enough".

IMO this would be a fine first step in balancing the weapon, something need to be done IMO.



- I've suggested the same for the locus nades, the Core Locus nade is too powerfull and deadly. This needs to be done after the "fix" to aiming and hit detection.

We might end up with a game where anything which explodes is the default best way to go, as is nearly the case now, I certainly don't want it and I hope you don't aswell.

Of course it's not OP, you will never kill a someone with stacked Complex shield mods or a Heavy with a single clip, and get in 10 meters and you can kill him with anything. It's the best support weapon in the game, but it's not OP.

I went 29-0 with that last night. I am not even a MD user. I use it just to show people how OP it is. I couldn't comment on it till i used it.

Now about the shield stacked person, it only takes me one shot to kill them. Heard about the the Flux ?! Heavies would die before the 8 round clip ends. Guess what, the negative splash damage doesn't affect me much, i'm caldari lol

Now about the shield stacked person, it only takes me one shot to kill them. Heard about the the Flux ?!

I went 29-0 with that last night. I am not even a MD user. I use it just to show people how OP it is. I couldn't comment on it till i used it.

Now about the shield stacked person, it only takes me one shot to kill them. Heard about the the Flux ?! Heavies would die before the 8 round clip ends. Guess what, the negative splash damage doesn't affect me much, i'm caldari lol

Which of the TWO weapons that you are using to ONE SHOT the guy do you use to kill him in ONE SHOT again? Is it the Flux or the MD?

Bragging about going x-0 once in pubs is not proving whether a weapon is OP or not. The flux argument has already been refuted countless times on the forum. It is a completely different element that is irrelevant since everything is dying after a flux, hell ARs kill heavies faster with a Flux than MDs can. You could say someone using a laser rifle could kill someone with 20 HP after using a Lotus Grenade, but what does this say about the laser rifle, except that it can finish someone off after a Lotus Grenade?

The great Flux+MD combo... i've never seen so many Flux nades being used before. Oh btw, i also use it as an AV weapon. Tank count 7 (Gunlogis) and counting. Its difficult with the Madrugar. Quite a lot of LAVs, some Logi ones too. Now tell me it's not OP.

I get it. You are having too much fun with it. But please. I know a lot of people who specced into it just to see why it kills them so fast with such less effort

Its not OP. Do you not get basic math?

1 flux + 1 MD = 2 weapons NOT 1. YOU CANNOT OHK with MD (PERIOD).

Also if you are running with a squad it means you are utilizing its support role well.

I've been using the MD since Open Beta, extensively used all 3 variants in Chrome and Uprising pre-patch, so I know what I'm talking about compared to someone who admittingly doesn't even use the MD.

So you will say that a EC3, Freedom or even a boundless is not OP? Ok just for your sake i wont call it OP. Let's just call it a very easy weapon to get some easy kills. Clearly a guy spamming explosive rounds constantly is there to play the "Support" role.

Yes i do get the math. The point is the MD needs no effort. It's no longer a support weapon. Its one of the most annoying weapon to encounter. I can OHK kill and i have quite a few times. Trust me i've laughed very hard at that red dot. to be honest, most of us are using it now to have some fun and relax.