The dev blog we put out on Tuesday was our Uprising + the Future dev blog.

If you want a more detailed look at our roadmap, here are the things we'll be working on over the coming months.

• Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST.
• Improving controls for aiming
• Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better
• Making sure all battles hit a consistent 30 FPS minimum for our current max battle sizes
• Improving vehicle movement
• Balancing vehicles so each has a role and is balanced both versus other vehicles and infantry
• Improving infantry movement
• Making getting into battles provide more context about what's going on, why you're fighting, etc.
• Improving Planetary Conquest and making it more meaningful and interesting to be involved with
• Improving Factional Warfare, making it more interesting, and rewarding players who are loyal to a faction somehow
• Fixing bugs and exploits
• Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make
• Improving situational awareness tools through the UI
• Improving the fitting experience through UI and better integration with the market

There are also things that are not high level roadmap stuff that we'll be working on. Stuff like the addition of snow in Uprising 1.2 is a good example of this. For example, we have some other graphical improvements coming in 1.3, such as some changes to sites and scopes to improve visibility in certain environments, which are not "Roadmap" items but are still important fixes nonetheless.

We don't have set-in-stone dates for when certain things are coming. It's also not really possible to share the nitty gritty details of each roadmap item at the moment, for a variety of reasons.

Dumbing down the game because its too hard and complicated

If i want to play BF3 where everyone has the same gear and equipment i will put in BF3

Its dumbing the game down

Less choice, less options so its dumbing it down

You can say all the EVE things you like but for the main fighting stuff in EVE they still use the same fleets unless a FOTM ship setup comes into it

All what will happen is FOTM fits

Also vehicle users will get the short end of the straw aswell, we dont even have advanced let alone proto mods/hulls so chances are we get stuck with the same old gunlogi/maddy up against proto AV but because its tiercide then infantry will just 3dmg mod it out the ass with lolOPswarms every ******* game

Its dumbing down simple as

Back in the days when i used basic it was to find a fit i liked then tweek it as i worked for adv/proto

If everyone is already at proto then why are we playing?

If its even out the playing field then whatever happened to new eden and HTFU?

Its dumbing the game down and making it easier, less choice less fits

This thread right here represents a golden opportunity for CCP to just TRY the open communication approach!

Even playing field OVERALL, yes. BUT:

In CQC, there will be those who are better.
At long range, there will be those who are better.

But 'those who are better' at x or z or y will be those who have THOUGHT (oh my god, no way, it's a thinking man's shooter!) about what they want to be good at. No more simply telling yourself "okay, I want to be good at sniping, so I'll get a prototype sniper". Instead, thought process becomes "okay, I want to snipe. Where do I want to snipe from? The hills? Okay, so I want a dropsuit with a bonus to sniper sway. Okay, now I have a choice between light and medium. I think I'll go with light, so I can reposition faster, and because I won't be sniping from places that people can sneak up on. Now, my sniper. I tend to go for headshots, so I want a sniper with a sway reduction bonus on top of my dropsuit. Also, now I want nanohives for resupplying my weapon. I want a hive that doesn't glow, so I don't get spotted because of it."

I mention some items that aren't even in-game right now, but sound damn cool to have. The point of tiercide is that the SP sink won't make newbies faint when they begin, and still provide a challenge to veterans who want to specialise because skills for individual weapons (even individual variants if we wanted to go that far) will cost a hell of a lot to maximise.

Also, FotM fits will be easily balanced because now, everything has a base level to compare against, instead of multiple tiers.

Its dumbing the game down

Less choice, less options so its dumbing it down

You can say all the EVE things you like but for the main fighting stuff in EVE they still use the same fleets unless a FOTM ship setup comes into it

All what will happen is FOTM fits

Also vehicle users will get the short end of the straw aswell, we dont even have advanced let alone proto mods/hulls so chances are we get stuck with the same old gunlogi/maddy up against proto AV but because its tiercide then infantry will just 3dmg mod it out the ass with lolOPswarms every ******* game

Its dumbing down simple as

Back in the days when i used basic it was to find a fit i liked then tweek it as i worked for adv/proto

If everyone is already at proto then why are we playing?

If its even out the playing field then whatever happened to new eden and HTFU?

Its dumbing the game down and making it easier, less choice less fits

Ideally if tericide were to happen it would still be impossible to fit a full proto module layout into a suit. The player will have to make choices on mixing and matching between the best mix of advanced and prototype modules and weapons. This makes the skill of fitting knowledge most important. A skill once acquired can be used in any other suit as the player become more and more conscious and smarter over their suit's performance.

Also this will free up some paint schemes for the paint bucket store later on and severely reduce the art team's work loads.

Its dumbing the game down

Less choice, less options so its dumbing it down

You can say all the EVE things you like but for the main fighting stuff in EVE they still use the same fleets unless a FOTM ship setup comes into it

All what will happen is FOTM fits

Also vehicle users will get the short end of the straw aswell, we dont even have advanced let alone proto mods/hulls so chances are we get stuck with the same old gunlogi/maddy up against proto AV but because its tiercide then infantry will just 3dmg mod it out the ass with lolOPswarms every ******* game

Its dumbing down simple as

Back in the days when i used basic it was to find a fit i liked then tweek it as i worked for adv/proto

If everyone is already at proto then why are we playing?

If its even out the playing field then whatever happened to new eden and HTFU?

Its dumbing the game down and making it easier, less choice less fits

Bollocks

I know in EVE i can generally fit all T2 mods on it aka the best without having to use expenisve officer/deadspace fittings so why the same in DUST?

Because Eve doesn't operate on the Basic, Advanced, Prototype marinda. Nor does eve operate on Breach, Flux, Gauged, Assault, Hacked, Tactical, Specialist variants either (though that would be cool for eve to pick up)

Also I take you just battleclinic most of your fits instead of going out and dying in something you slapped together on your own. You would have realized Eve online has an epic crap ton of fitting nuances even at max fitting skills.

Wrong again

When you you assume you make an ass out of you but not me

Tiercide in EVE is different to DUST

Best thing with EVE is basically everything out out now

Also meta levels are the tiers tbh, look at cloaking in EVE, the mods we have are 3 basic/advanaced/proto would you look at that

In DUST we dont have everything

In DUST vehicles dont even have adv/proto hulls and mods yet infantry which is all the CPM and 99% of the playerbase have basically the majority of ther stuff upto proto level

If tiercide comes in vehicles will get shafted and why because we dont have adv/proto mods/hulls so we would end up with prob gunlogi and madrugars as our proto hulls but get 1 shotted by proto AV lol

Not too mention we lose basic/adv things which would either never be used or just scrapped

Removal of gear so less choice simple as ive said this before you denied it even tho im right

Vehicles get shafted simple as, we dont have adv/proto mods/hulls and until they are introduced get ****** infantryman, i want to see adv/proto mods/hulls and test them out against proto AV 1st because if this tiercide goes through when all the pieces of the puzzle aint in place then vehicles will get ****** over

Instead we get shafted with a maddy and gunlogi type b with some buffed stats but prob isnt anywhere near what a proto should be

Yeah right removal of proto AV good luck with that, how many proto lolswarms crutch users are they who love them in this broken state and can take out all vehicles without trying or aiming or risking anything, even you defend the crutch users when they are clearly broken

We dont have adv/proto mods or hulls yet

If tiercide happened now or even before we ever get our stuff we would end up with the tanks we have now, useless and severly UP against all types of AV as it is now

Its why adv/proto is needed so it can be tested against adv/proto AV

Everything infantry is basically done but because infantry dont give a **** about vehicles which is apperent throughout the game/forums and CPM we would defo get ******

You still have yet not fully explain why a tiericide would nerf vehicles if vehicles were also to get a tiericide pass?

You cant ******* read can you?

You cannot do tiercide when everything is still not out or even balanced against each other, vehicles are missing all adv/proto mods and hulls not too mention the other races vehicles, MAVs.speeders/jets/lazer and projectile turrets etc

Ask again in 2yrs time when we should have everything and the games are linked to each other

More gibberish

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More ******** posting that shows thT you have manger to muss the very simple point i've spent 2 pages trying to tell you.

Okay I'm definitely going with (3 here, you're an idiot, what I want you to realise is that in a post tiercide there will be no proto vehicles, nor any proto AV. things will all be balanced at the same grade, and while we're on the subject I severly doubt and hope that we will never see proto vehicles, they will turn balancing AV and vehicles into an utter mess, an there's really no need for them. Not to mention that the sp sink they'll be will be ridiculous.

I am going state this quite simply, In my honest opinion, born of vehicle combat across 2 builds, over 9 million sp invested into the tree, hundreds of millions of isk spent, and 8 months of expeience, proto and ADV hulls for vehicles is one of the worst things that could ever happen to dust.

I agree your an idiot

I had tanked more than you, prob been in DUST longer than you and done everything it has to offer

On one hand you say that dropsuits would all be the proto varients but then it isnt because proto doesnt exists but it wouldnt say proto

So proto vehicles dont exist so tiercide works how but fudging the numbers aand guessing at the tank which could be UP which ends up with basic gunlogi and maddy as our top tanks against proto AV great but its not proto AV because proto doesnt exist to is normal 3k damage per volley swarms

You say adv/proto vehicles worst thing to come to dust but adv/proto AV is fine because you are infantry and dont care because basic vehicle loleasy to kill

You want vehicles gone i get it

/facepalm, I give up, I actually give up, you are either literally too stupid to understand what me and several others have tried to tell you, or you are doing a very poor troll. And for the record I am one of the most outspoken dropship pilots on the forums, my post history will confirm that.

You also seem unable to comprehend the words "game wide balance pass" and the fact that said pass would balance AV and vehicles against each other, but then as has been clearly proven, you're too stupid to understand that.

How would it balance it?

The removal of the word proto does not reduce the damage it does

look at this and see if you understand what we are trying to ask for. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database you might notice there is no adv/proto/std tiers but instead a horizontal this is different but not necessarily better layout to all the gear and hulls

But meta levels still exist

You cannot deny it, the words are not ther but the numbers still are and also T1 T2 and officer

You can still say basic/adv/proto via meta give or take espc for the mods

The ships on the otherhand are T1 T2 pirate/navy faction each with roles but are very strong from each class

Take the ship classes - frigate/destroyer/cruisers/battlecruiser/battleships

Each ship is better at its role, more slots, more PG/CPU,more HP and tank as a consequence of a bigger price tag

Some roles split off so you dont get a battleship scanner ship but you have a T1 T2 ship for purly scanning which has all of the above but it may only be frigate

You can split the tanks and give out roles like the dropsuits but what about T1 T2 varients at least and even T3 which you can call basic/adv/proto

Either way adv/proto vehicles are needed

Frigate=Scout suit small fragile
Destroyer=Medium suit better tank
Crusier= heavy better tank
battlecrusier= LAV better tank
Battleship=HAV best tanking but huse in comparison

I need more slots pg cpu and tank then if im the battleship because right now infantry with proto AV is like a frigate taking out a battleship

Which happens plenty often. Unsupported battleships can get wrecked by frigates.

Happens quite often in eve. Hell we had a '18 wheeler' take out a battleship

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6so9AT4UydQ

By frigates

The 'S' means more than one

Current proto AV is solo = 1 person acting alone

Also a industrial can fit a really good tank and with its hold lots and lots of cap boosters and that BS was a PVE mission runner, you think it would generally survive against a PVP BS?

The battleship and pilot was a **** fit and under normal circumstances a competent PVE player in that class of battleship would have massacred that iteron, however most pve'ers are not competent pilots and thus are easy targets. Also depend on what you define as a pvp setup. In fleet warfare you don't fit active repair tanks at all. Ergo if a frigate caught you on the way to muster and the fleet departed without you. A singular frigate can carry enough tech 2 ammo to blow you to pieces. Bottom line is that in order for most battleships to deal with a or a squadron of frigates or wolfpack destroyers requires fitting for that threat vector which detracts against the primary threat vector of other battleships and capital ships, cruisers and the like more. A single battleship cannot cover all its weak spots.

Also using Eve to balance warfare tactics analogies in Dust is a bit silly considering how fast a large turret can track scouts in Dust.

There are things that translate well from Eve into Dust. Anything dealing with application of damage is not one of them as argued by Hans' last night with some unknown skyper.

I am however glad as confirmed by CCP Wolfman that Tanks and all other vehicles are finally getting basic, advanced, and prototype equipment/modules. This is something they needed rather direly and would be far more useful to the vehicles than new hulls.

Funny thing is the sole reason why I brought the industrial up.

Upcoming patch is adding new combat ships. Guess what class they are?

Industrial.

The Badger, Nereus, Tayra, & Hoarder.

The magic of Teircide.
More interesting choices within the already existing options.

Battle Badger, still the most amusing fit I've ever heard of.