You cant ******* read can you?

You cannot do tiercide when everything is still not out or even balanced against each other, vehicles are missing all adv/proto mods and hulls not too mention the other races vehicles, MAVs.speeders/jets/lazer and projectile turrets etc

Ask again in 2yrs time when we should have everything and the games are linked to each other

More gibberish

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More ******** posting that shows thT you have manger to muss the very simple point i've spent 2 pages trying to tell you.

Okay I'm definitely going with (3 here, you're an idiot, what I want you to realise is that in a post tiercide there will be no proto vehicles, nor any proto AV. things will all be balanced at the same grade, and while we're on the subject I severly doubt and hope that we will never see proto vehicles, they will turn balancing AV and vehicles into an utter mess, an there's really no need for them. Not to mention that the sp sink they'll be will be ridiculous.

I am going state this quite simply, In my honest opinion, born of vehicle combat across 2 builds, over 9 million sp invested into the tree, hundreds of millions of isk spent, and 8 months of expeience, proto and ADV hulls for vehicles is one of the worst things that could ever happen to dust.

I agree your an idiot

I had tanked more than you, prob been in DUST longer than you and done everything it has to offer

On one hand you say that dropsuits would all be the proto varients but then it isnt because proto doesnt exists but it wouldnt say proto

So proto vehicles dont exist so tiercide works how but fudging the numbers aand guessing at the tank which could be UP which ends up with basic gunlogi and maddy as our top tanks against proto AV great but its not proto AV because proto doesnt exist to is normal 3k damage per volley swarms

You say adv/proto vehicles worst thing to come to dust but adv/proto AV is fine because you are infantry and dont care because basic vehicle loleasy to kill

You want vehicles gone i get it

/facepalm, I give up, I actually give up, you are either literally too stupid to understand what me and several others have tried to tell you, or you are doing a very poor troll. And for the record I am one of the most outspoken dropship pilots on the forums, my post history will confirm that.

You also seem unable to comprehend the words "game wide balance pass" and the fact that said pass would balance AV and vehicles against each other, but then as has been clearly proven, you're too stupid to understand that.

How would it balance it?

The removal of the word proto does not reduce the damage it does

look at this and see if you understand what we are trying to ask for. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database you might notice there is no adv/proto/std tiers but instead a horizontal this is different but not necessarily better layout to all the gear and hulls

But meta levels still exist

You cannot deny it, the words are not ther but the numbers still are and also T1 T2 and officer

You can still say basic/adv/proto via meta give or take espc for the mods

The ships on the otherhand are T1 T2 pirate/navy faction each with roles but are very strong from each class

Take the ship classes - frigate/destroyer/cruisers/battlecruiser/battleships

Each ship is better at its role, more slots, more PG/CPU,more HP and tank as a consequence of a bigger price tag

Some roles split off so you dont get a battleship scanner ship but you have a T1 T2 ship for purly scanning which has all of the above but it may only be frigate

You can split the tanks and give out roles like the dropsuits but what about T1 T2 varients at least and even T3 which you can call basic/adv/proto

Either way adv/proto vehicles are needed

Frigate=Scout suit small fragile
Destroyer=Medium suit better tank
Crusier= heavy better tank
battlecrusier= LAV better tank
Battleship=HAV best tanking but huse in comparison

I need more slots pg cpu and tank then if im the battleship because right now infantry with proto AV is like a frigate taking out a battleship

Which happens plenty often. Unsupported battleships can get wrecked by frigates.

Happens quite often in eve. Hell we had a '18 wheeler' take out a battleship

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6so9AT4UydQ

By frigates

The 'S' means more than one

Current proto AV is solo = 1 person acting alone

Also a industrial can fit a really good tank and with its hold lots and lots of cap boosters and that BS was a PVE mission runner, you think it would generally survive against a PVP BS?

The battleship and pilot was a **** fit and under normal circumstances a competent PVE player in that class of battleship would have massacred that iteron, however most pve'ers are not competent pilots and thus are easy targets. Also depend on what you define as a pvp setup. In fleet warfare you don't fit active repair tanks at all. Ergo if a frigate caught you on the way to muster and the fleet departed without you. A singular frigate can carry enough tech 2 ammo to blow you to pieces. Bottom line is that in order for most battleships to deal with a or a squadron of frigates or wolfpack destroyers requires fitting for that threat vector which detracts against the primary threat vector of other battleships and capital ships, cruisers and the like more. A single battleship cannot cover all its weak spots.

Also using Eve to balance warfare tactics analogies in Dust is a bit silly considering how fast a large turret can track scouts in Dust.

There are things that translate well from Eve into Dust. Anything dealing with application of damage is not one of them as argued by Hans' last night with some unknown skyper.

I am however glad as confirmed by CCP Wolfman that Tanks and all other vehicles are finally getting basic, advanced, and prototype equipment/modules. This is something they needed rather direly and would be far more useful to the vehicles than new hulls.

Funny thing is the sole reason why I brought the industrial up.

Upcoming patch is adding new combat ships. Guess what class they are?

Industrial.

The Badger, Nereus, Tayra, & Hoarder.

The magic of Teircide.
More interesting choices within the already existing options.

Battle Badger, still the most amusing fit I've ever heard of.