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Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:56:00 -
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Thank you people for teaching me what the role of LOGISTIC is , cause I don't play LOGI ships in EVE and I do not study LOGISTICS in the UNIVERSITY .
Thank you again , appriciated |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:59:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Thank you people for teaching me what the role of LOGISTIC is , cause I don't play LOGI ships in EVE and I do not study LOGISTICS in the UNIVERSITY . Thank you again , appriciated Haha I'm a actually an instructor :P |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
832
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:00:00 -
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Spycrab Potato wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa So you want us to run around without weapons? You assaults need to stop crying to CCP and come to me when I try to rep you. Btw, I run Proto Gallente Logi fully spec'd out with a mass driver as my primary. I have had it for 9 months and don't plan on putting it down any time soon. I run a K-2 Nanohive, a BDR-2(I think that's what it is called) Repair tool, a STD Drop uplink (skilling into those next because I love Dom), and a KIN Nanite Injector. Am I LOGI enough for you guys now?
Nope, not Logi enough.. 9 months of having proto logi and your running std and adv equipment :p
however +1 for actually running logi equipment lol |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
293
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Logi dual-smgs, lol.
On a serious note, you are right. Amarr assault is only better if you use one of two weapons. New CalLogi's shield bonus technically makes it more like an assault, not less. Gallente logi beats Gallente assault hands down. Only the Minmatar provide a legitimate assault/logi divide.
Hilarious considering the Gallente is the worst Logi suit, and has worst livability than almost every suit in the game besides Speed mod scouts. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
225
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:03:00 -
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logi do what logi wanna do
just ask a minmatar logi
on a serious note I have around 5 logi fits and not all of them have an injector and repper
one may have remotes, proxy, and nanos one does have injector, repper, and hives
the other just hives and active scanner and another hives, uplinks, and repper
and then I have my gallente slayer logi
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
225
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:05:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Logi dual-smgs, lol.
On a serious note, you are right. Amarr assault is only better if you use one of two weapons. New CalLogi's shield bonus technically makes it more like an assault, not less. Gallente logi beats Gallente assault hands down. Only the Minmatar provide a legitimate assault/logi divide. Hilarious considering the Gallente is the worst Logi suit, and has worst livability than almost every suit in the game besides Speed mod scouts. worst logi for people who dont know how to use it I can go 20-0 with it and a scrambler rifle |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
832
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:08:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Logi dual-smgs, lol.
On a serious note, you are right. Amarr assault is only better if you use one of two weapons. New CalLogi's shield bonus technically makes it more like an assault, not less. Gallente logi beats Gallente assault hands down. Only the Minmatar provide a legitimate assault/logi divide. Hilarious considering the Gallente is the worst Logi suit, and has worst livability than almost every suit in the game besides Speed mod scouts.
4 equipment and the most PG/CPU
yep, that **** fkn blows |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
293
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:16:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Logi dual-smgs, lol.
On a serious note, you are right. Amarr assault is only better if you use one of two weapons. New CalLogi's shield bonus technically makes it more like an assault, not less. Gallente logi beats Gallente assault hands down. Only the Minmatar provide a legitimate assault/logi divide. Hilarious considering the Gallente is the worst Logi suit, and has worst livability than almost every suit in the game besides Speed mod scouts. 4 equipment and the most PG/CPU yep, that **** fkn blows
Armor tanker Slow No side-arm Passive doesn't help survivability
So yeah, Gallente is the worst Logisuit and has the worst livability than almost every suit in the game besides Speed mod scouts. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:20:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:logi do what logi wanna do just ask a minmatar logi on a serious note I have around 5 logi fits and not all of them have an injector and repper one may have remotes, proxy, and nanos one does have injector, repper, and hives the other just hives and active scanner and another hives, uplinks, and repper and then I have my gallente slayer logi ^^^^ this is a student of the true logi, they have a variety of logi fits that can accomplish almost every task given to them. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
356
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:21:00 -
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I love how ppl B!tch about things like MD, even though everyone knows that those ppl cant shoot for sh!t when then pick the MD themselves. But then again those same ppl alwasy run to packs of ck.0 pub stomping and we are not talking about how there is something wrong with a logi suit that has most EQUIPMENT AND most SLOTS than other suits. I routinely see CalLogi with near 900 hp fielded. I run a scout suit - my top HP if I give up speed and electronics is a little over 300 (we are talking proto min). How can we talk about balance in the game? But sure if we flood the forum with MD QQ everyone's attention is gonna be diverted from the real issues. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1586
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:23:00 -
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You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:23:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa I actually saw this coming but hey can't blame them why the hell would you pc with 1 equipment slot that **** pisses me off..assaults suck now that's all there is to it |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:26:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
Give assaults another equipment slot...if it stays 1 then buff the cpu and pg so I can fit proto nanos on my assault |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:27:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I love how ppl B!tch about things like MD, even though everyone knows that those ppl cant shoot for sh!t when then pick the MD themselves. But then again those same ppl alwasy run to packs of ck.0 pub stomping and we are not talking about how there is something wrong with a logi suit that has most EQUIPMENT AND most SLOTS than other suits. I routinely see CalLogi with near 900 hp fielded. I run a scout suit - my top HP if I give up speed and electronics is a little over 300 (we are talking proto min). How can we talk about balance in the game? But sure if we flood the forum with MD QQ everyone's attention is gonna be diverted from the real issues.
Exactly it's that the MD is so OP but everyone ignoring the fact that almost everyone using MD is LOGI proto or atleast adv and he can fit so much TANK that you can not do much to him with most of the weapons at any range considering the horrible amount of Supression he gives you and all the screen shakes . |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1588
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:33:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
Give assaults another equipment slot...if it stays 1 then buff the cpu and pg so I can fit proto nanos on my assault
Here would be an interesting balance:
Logi Bonus: 25% CPU/PG Reduction on Equipment Assault Bonus: 25% CPU/PG Reduction on all Weaponry
Racial bonuses affect specific weapons and equipment.
Give assaults a second equip slot Give logis a sidearm slot.
It normalizes it a little so there's not such a drastic difference between the combat and support potential between the two while still giving each a flavor.
Give amarr logi an extra high low so they are 4 high 5 low to mirror cal logi.
Adjust CPU/PG on all medium frames to compensate.
That actually sounds awesome to me. It would make PC much more enjoyable as a logi as well. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:33:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:I love how ppl B!tch about things like MD, even though everyone knows that those ppl cant shoot for sh!t when then pick the MD themselves. But then again those same ppl alwasy run to packs of ck.0 pub stomping and we are not talking about how there is something wrong with a logi suit that has most EQUIPMENT AND most SLOTS than other suits. I routinely see CalLogi with near 900 hp fielded. I run a scout suit - my top HP if I give up speed and electronics is a little over 300 (we are talking proto min). How can we talk about balance in the game? But sure if we flood the forum with MD QQ everyone's attention is gonna be diverted from the real issues. Exactly it's that the MD is so OP but everyone ignoring the fact that almost everyone using MD is LOGI proto or atleast adv and he can fit so much TANK that you can not do much to him with most of the weapons at any range considering the horrible amount of Supression he gives you and all the screen shakes . Okay I've ran std md with my proto cal ass and its easy unless you don't know how to use it and as I found out yesterday its great for stealing kills I went 18-19-2 with my cascr and my team ran md's..that's 19 assists if you didn't know |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
833
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:34:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
the armor repair bonus..?
if your talking about armor repair.. how the hell does a maximum of +5 armor a second equal OP.. it would take 10 seconds just to get 50Hp off that.. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:36:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
Give assaults another equipment slot...if it stays 1 then buff the cpu and pg so I can fit proto nanos on my assault Here would be an interesting balance: Logi Bonus: 25% CPU/PG Reduction on Equipment Assault Bonus: 25% CPU/PG Reduction on all Weaponry Racial bonuses affect specific weapons and equipment. Give assaults a second equip slot Give logis a sidearm slot. It normalizes it a little so there's not such a drastic difference between the combat and support potential between the two while still giving each a flavor. Give amarr logi an extra high low so they are 4 high 5 low to mirror cal logi. Adjust CPU/PG on all medium frames to compensate. That actually sounds awesome to me. It would make PC much more enjoyable as a logi as well. Sounds great to me I tell you what I pced last night and 1 equipment slot sucks for pc if I could I'd go cal logi just for that reason |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1588
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:37:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
the armor repair bonus or the 5% shield recharge bonus.. if your talking about armor repair.. how the hell does a maximum of +5 armor a second equal OP.. it would take 10 seconds just to get 50Hp off that.. so hoping your reffering to the shield regen.. which I have no input on as my gallente suit completely ignores that bonus.
Its a free complex armor repairer, its what makes logi frames so appealing to a lot of people for frontline assault.
Im still not sure I would run cal assault over cal logi, simply because I get 5 hp/s armor reps on the logi suit. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:39:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know what makes logi so good at assaulting? The passive reps bonus. That bonus is hella OP.
We need to remove that bonus, give logis an equipment reduction passive, and put passive reps on every suit.
the armor repair bonus or the 5% shield recharge bonus.. if your talking about armor repair.. how the hell does a maximum of +5 armor a second equal OP.. it would take 10 seconds just to get 50Hp off that.. so hoping your reffering to the shield regen.. which I have no input on as my gallente suit completely ignores that bonus. Its a free complex armor repairer, its what makes logi frames so appealing to a lot of people for frontline assault. Im still not sure I would run cal assault over cal logi, simply because I get 5 hp/s armor reps on the logi suit. Cal assault isn't worth it when the logi has more equipment just slap some cardiac **** on that |
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
214
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:43:00 -
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Logis wouldn't be so imbalanced if equipment in general was fixed. The spamability of equipment is what makes Logis so damn good. That and the passive rep bonus like ZDub mentioned. For some reason the Logis got a bunch of amazing Assault-type bonuses when Uprising came out (shield extender bonus and passive armor rep, namely).
I would rather see Assaults keep their one equipment and instead get a bonus to damage (2% to weapon damage per level, for example). The 5% to shield recharge per level is awesome for my Caldari, but I can imagine it's pretty damn useless and unfair for all the other races.
A small increase in base CPU for Assaults would also be kind of nice. I have all my core fitting skills maxed (Electronics, Engineering, Core Upgrades, Light Weapon Operation), and I still can't manage to make fits without having to consider a CPU upgrade. |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:48:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I am a proto logi sniper.
Deal with it. So basically useless. Got it. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
490
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:53:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Logis wouldn't be so imbalanced if equipment in general was fixed. The spamability of equipment is what makes Logis so damn good. That and the passive rep bonus like ZDub mentioned. For some reason the Logis got a bunch of amazing Assault-type bonuses when Uprising came out (shield extender bonus and passive armor rep, namely).
I would rather see Assaults keep their one equipment and instead get a bonus to damage (2% to weapon damage per level, for example). The 5% to shield recharge per level is awesome for my Caldari, but I can imagine it's pretty damn useless and unfair for all the other races.
A small increase in base CPU for Assaults would also be kind of nice. I have all my core fitting skills maxed (Electronics, Engineering, Core Upgrades, Light Weapon Operation), and I still can't manage to make fits without having to consider a CPU upgrade. I just drop the side arms to fit my suit though the only thing good about assaults is the side arm yet I can't even fit a std one with my proto suit how great should have went logi |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:55:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:wrong
You really know how to proove your point well :D burden of proof is on the accuser This isn't a court of law. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
215
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: I just drop the side arms to fit my suit though the only thing good about assaults is the side arm yet I can't even fit a std one with my proto suit how great should have went logi
I have the exact same issue :/ |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:58:00 -
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Not that the Assault suits are bad . They are just inferior to the Assault 2.0 (LOGI) |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:00:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Not that the Assault suits are bad . They are just inferior to the Assault 2.0 (LOGI)
basicly the only downside LOGI suits have is the fact that you run so much PROTO mods/equipment/weapons that the pricetag on them is going to be higher |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
491
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:02:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: I just drop the side arms to fit my suit though the only thing good about assaults is the side arm yet I can't even fit a std one with my proto suit how great should have went logi
I have the exact same issue :/ Okay then I know its not that I suck at fitting my suit then, I remember running logi wayyy back in closed beta I could fit everything on it |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
491
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:04:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Not that the Assault suits are bad . They are just inferior to the Assault 2.0 (LOGI) basicly the only downside LOGI suits have is the fact that you run so much PROTO mods/equipment/weapons that the pricetag on them is going to be higher So not a problem then? I have 260m isk and I'm sure people in eon have more, atm there is nothing to blow isk on |
SleezyBigSlim
DUST University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:06:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa
No. Any basic assault suit can still take more damage then a logi and is faster. |
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