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Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:07:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Not that the Assault suits are bad . They are just inferior to the Assault 2.0 (LOGI) basicly the only downside LOGI suits have is the fact that you run so much PROTO mods/equipment/weapons that the pricetag on them is going to be higher So not a problem then? I have 260m isk and I'm sure people in eon have more, atm there is nothing to blow isk on
Yeaaa , you are right . That is not much of a downside :D |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
218
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:08:00 -
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If the base CPU of Assaults was buffed from 300 to 320 it would pretty much solve all my fitting issues. Right now with EVERY fitting skill maxed I am still short like 10-15 CPU to make the fit I truly want. That amount of CPU shouldn't justify a CPU upgrade cause then I'm sitting with like 100 extra CPU with nothing to fit it with. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:10:00 -
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SleezyBigSlim wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa No. Any basic assault suit can still take more damage then a logi and is faster.
How ? Explain us please . Give me a side by side DPS frontline fits for any race of your chosing where the assault suit performs better than the Logi at actually assaulting anything |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
73
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:12:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
And they met it. The burden is now upon you to provide a rebuttal.
Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says .
LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun anecdotal and just plain not true, there are LOADS of support logis out there, and they do wonderful things. ive also seen what assaults can do VS logis and several of the assault varients are dominating if used properly. im personally aware of amarr assaults who are absolutly devestating, who wouldnt be nearly as effective as logis. minmatar assaults whome you do NOT want to get near... but cant stop them. gallante assaults who for some reason do rediculas amounts of damage (true story learn to build your assault suits) caldari assaults dont exsist because the idiot tryhards went logi and aparntly this means EVERY logi is LOGI514 but this has been fixed and your point is now moot. Hasa Hakira wrote: Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . what do you want them to do, not run any weapons? No I just want them to save some PG/CPU to use actual LOGI equipment :D
So like 95% of my logi fits that I use BPO AR's on? But hey I guess I don't have to risk my gear saving your ass on the battlefield when I can't kill the guy who downed you. Oh and I guess after I stick you I'll run away instead if dropping a nano at your feet while I do my best you absorb the incoming sniper round looking for the easy kill of the guy who was just rev'd.
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Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:26:00 -
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All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities :
Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low
Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low
Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low Amarr Logi - 390 CPU 72 PG = 3high [u][i][b]4 low
ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ...
So now what ? |
SleezyBigSlim
DUST University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:51:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:SleezyBigSlim wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa No. Any basic assault suit can still take more damage then a logi and is faster. How ? Explain us please . Give me a side by side DPS frontline fits for any race of your chosing where the assault suit performs better than the Logi at actually assaulting anything
Assaults have more shield and armor and faster speed. Also only the Amarr logi carries a side arm. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:59:00 -
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SleezyBigSlim wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:SleezyBigSlim wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa No. Any basic assault suit can still take more damage then a logi and is faster. How ? Explain us please . Give me a side by side DPS frontline fits for any race of your chosing where the assault suit performs better than the Logi at actually assaulting anything Assaults have more shield and armor and faster speed. Also only the Amarr logi carries a side arm.
Yea 50 EHP more which is easily counter by the fact you can fit more proto shield/armor and you have 1 extra low slot for a Biotics upgrade/module which actually makes you faster than the assault . I am constantly beeing outrund by logis ... We simply do not have so much choices and so much flexability and luxeries
Looked from every possible angle the logistics suits are better at beeing assaults than their true asault counterparts . There isn't even a slight possibility of comparing them . |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
216
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Posted - 2013.08.10 20:51:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Spycrab Potato wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . Thanks , Hasa So you want us to run around without weapons? You assaults need to stop crying to CCP and come to me when I try to rep you. Btw, I run Proto Gallente Logi fully spec'd out with a mass driver as my primary. I have had it for 9 months and don't plan on putting it down any time soon. I run a K-2 Nanohive, a BDR-2(I think that's what it is called) Repair tool, a STD Drop uplink (skilling into those next because I love Dom), and a KIN Nanite Injector. Am I LOGI enough for you guys now? Nope, not Logi enough.. 9 months of having proto logi and your running std and adv equipment :p however +1 for actually running logi equipment lol I was talking about the Mass Driver. Plus I don't run proto logi equipment because I see no use for it in pubs. The Adv Nanohive, Injector, and Rep Tool work fine in pubs. And like I said, I am skilling the uplinks next. I have only been a proto logi since uprising. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:10:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:I am a proto logi sniper.
Deal with it. So basically useless. Got it. Ill save a bullet just for you |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1007
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:15:00 -
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Give logis a weapon damage reduction, like the logistics LAV has. Problem solved. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2904
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:15:00 -
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Logi dual scrambler? How and why?
And logis are very slow, which can be a huge downside. Especially with murder taxis circling. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:17:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Give logis a weapon damage reduction, like the logistics LAV has. Problem solved. How about no and give assault drop suits a damage bonus? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1008
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:31:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Give logis a weapon damage reduction, like the logistics LAV has. Problem solved. How about no and give assault drop suits a damage bonus? Either way I'm happy. |
Justine Oma-Lyndel
Raven Accord Black Core Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:48:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities : Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low Amarr Logi - 390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ... Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots) And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now So now what ? Thanks , Hasa
Here we go again.... A suits if fitted right work better at assault then logi, just like if a logi is properly fitted his/her survivability is increased drastically. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:51:00 -
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Justine Oma-Lyndel wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities : Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low Amarr Logi - 390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ... Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots) And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now So now what ? Thanks , Hasa Here we go again.... A suits if fitted right work better at assault then logi, just like if a logi is properly fitted his/her survivability is increased drastically.
I said it to others too but I will ask you for the same favor as well since no1 actually was able to do it so far / or wouldn't / couldn't : Please make an Assault and Logi assault fit from any race you want and show me the benefits of doing it with an assault |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:11:00 -
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Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:16:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI
Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull*****
You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
78
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:17:00 -
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nerf time
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain Chan
1
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:20:00 -
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Do you not recognize the superiority of the Logistics suit? Do you not satisfied assault suit of choice yourself until the strongest? lol
Fool |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:21:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:nerf time
Not necessairly . They can just buff the CPU/PG of the Assault so those suit can actually be fitted properly
And ofcourse replace the ******** uselles nonsensial racial bonuses of some of the races with ones that actually do something to benefit you |
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:23:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull***** You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere
I switch constantly between assault, logi, heavy suits the whole game, I am sorry I'm not only good with one specific suit must be tough for you. Here is some math: YOU X 10 < ME |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4092
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:28:00 -
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ITT: People looking for free kills from an already gimped class because they underestimate the usefulness of higher base stats and a sidearm. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:32:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull***** You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere I switch constantly between assault, logi, heavy suits the whole game, I am sorry I'm not only good with one specific suit must be tough for you. Here is some math: YOU X 10 < ME
I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:44:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull***** You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere I switch constantly between assault, logi, heavy suits the whole game, I am sorry I'm not only good with one specific suit must be tough for you. Here is some math: YOU X 10 < ME I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU
That's great because it works both ways. Forums are filled with people who think they are entitled to something (mostly teenagers). I don't need e-rep, likes, respect from people who read forums more than play the actual game. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:46:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull***** You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere I switch constantly between assault, logi, heavy suits the whole game, I am sorry I'm not only good with one specific suit must be tough for you. Here is some math: YOU X 10 < ME I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU That's great because it works both ways. Forums are filled with people who think they are entitled to something (mostly teenagers). I don't need e-rep, likes, respect from people who read forums more than play the actual game.
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:00:00 -
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Sure, you can also look me up on facebook and follow me on twitter. I can teach you how to be a man and not a whiny little boy. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:05:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe because the people playing logi (support or not) are just better than the stale, typical, played out assault role that is the most prominent in every FPS game ever made? You are just sheep, sheep are only better than other sheep. Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull***** You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere I switch constantly between assault, logi, heavy suits the whole game, I am sorry I'm not only good with one specific suit must be tough for you. Here is some math: YOU X 10 < ME I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU That's great because it works both ways. Forums are filled with people who think they are entitled to something (mostly teenagers). I don't need e-rep, likes, respect from people who read forums more than play the actual game. Why you hating on teens? I don't appreciate your negative stereotyping of the teenager group that play this game. :) |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:21:00 -
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I am sorry if I offended any of the pubeless...public I mean:D |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
24
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:34:00 -
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Another i got beat by a non assault so nerf it thread.where are these super logis at?Are they in the sky shooting lasers out thier ***?Sorry no logis dominating matches just assaults with Ars and Lavs. I see about maybe 4 logis a match You babies already got logis nerfed once and you still can't win come on its not the suit its you |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
55
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Posted - 2013.08.11 08:29:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Sure, you can also look me up on facebook and follow me on twitter. I can teach you how to be a man and not a whiny little boy.
What ever you say JUNIOR :D |
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