I have something similar in mind too . I don't want to bust the LOGIs I want to make them less prefarable as a DPS in favor of the Assault suit . Cause if the support suit can DPS better than the Assault And it can also be support at the same time , there is something wrong with the picture .

And they met it. The burden is now upon you to provide a rebuttal.

Pretty much what the title says .

LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun

Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything .

basicly the only downside LOGI suits have is the fact that you run so much PROTO mods/equipment/weapons that the pricetag on them is going to be higher

Pretty much what the title says .

LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun

Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything .

LOGI 514

Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it

My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 .

Thanks ,
Hasa

How ? Explain us please . Give me a side by side DPS frontline fits for any race of your chosing where the assault suit performs better than the Logi at actually assaulting anything

Pretty much what the title says .

LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun

Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything .

LOGI 514

Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it

My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 .
All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities :

Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low
Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low

Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low
Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low

Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low
Amarr Logi -390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low

ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ...

Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots)

And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI

Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now

So now what ?

Thanks ,
Hasa

Yes I forgot : Only PROS play LOGI

Dude you see anyone here talk about skillz and sheep and stuff ? We are discussing stats here . Pure math not some fairy tale bull*****

You can remove your logi loving fanboish stale sheep trunk from the treath and just go give mythical explainations elsewhere

I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU

Logis get nerfed ? When ? Last I checked they slightly lowered the stats on the Cal Logi cause it was pure insanity and they even BUFFED others ? You playing a different game chief ?

I have just found out that I am better at rolling cigars in the dark than otherwise .. hmm

Anyways .. to the point .. oh yes the patch notes from uprising 1.3

- Gave the Amarr logistics suit an additional low slot at PROTOTYPE tier and a third equipment slot at ADVANCED tier
- Increased Amarr Logistics PG: 3 at STD (up to 36 from 33), 4 at ADV (up to 50 from 46) and 6 at PRO (up to 72 from 66)
- Introduced the sidearm slot at STANDARD tier level instead of PROTOTYPE tier, so the role gets its defining characteristic from the start

The surelly got "FIXED" mate

All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities :

Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low
Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low

Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low
Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low

Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low
Amarr Logi -390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low

ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ...

Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots)

And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI

Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now

So now what ?

I do not agree that this is the place to brag how skillfull you are . Neither it is the place to prove it . I highly doubt aswell that there is even one person in theese forums that actually knows about your corporation , let alone YOU

Pretty much what the title says .

LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun

Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything .

LOGI 514

Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it

My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 .
All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities :

Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low
Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low

Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low
Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low

Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low
Amarr Logi -390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low

ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ...

Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots)

And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI

Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now

So now what ?

Thanks ,
Hasa

So you are saying you agree that Logis are better at assaulting that Assaults ? WoW it wasn't so hard was it ! Thank you ! You finaly understood the treat

Hey man , it's ok . I am not very good at making points , so I need you guys to help me make sense

After all we are all here to make the game better . My single and only intention is to make and improve the game for as much people as I can . After all in two weeks I will not be able to play anymore , not because I won't want to but because I am leaving the country for a long long time . .I really hope that when I come back (year from now ?) The game is going to be evolved and matured . I hope so , I sude do