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Your Absolut End
Neanderthal Nation
141
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Posted - 2013.08.13 09:20:00 -
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I don't understand why logis get more high/low slots compared to the assault suits. This combined with more CPU/PG ALONE is a reason why most folks prefer Logi over Assault
If I have more equipment slots, I should have less high/low slots, thats only fair trade. And this is how Dust normally should work. Exchange one thing against another.
As full Proto Amarr Assault when I look at Cal Logis I could still puke. I have 3 High/3 Low, and Cal Logis have 5High 4 Low? Seriously CCP 3 slots more and on top of that 2 more equipment and as sacrifice they don't have a second weapon? That's just stupid.
As Logi you are a supporting class, which means you are always a little behind the frontline, therefore you don't need to have 700+ EHP. The job of a logi is supporting the team, means droping uplinks, using nanite injectors, using reppers to help heavies etc. Logis play the WP game, while Heavies defend and Assaults attack & defend at the same time So EHP should be spread like this: Heavy->Assault->Logi->Scout.
Know your job, know your role!
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
173
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Posted - 2013.08.13 09:24:00 -
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Way to ruin the moment dude! |
Cpt Merdock
Ninth Legion Freelance Top Men.
58
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Posted - 2013.08.13 09:28:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:they die just like everyone else. you people who cry about other people should try improving yourselves first. if you havnt done everything you can why should someone else help you.
lets make a deal i'll wipe your tears if you lick my boots. mutual benefit
Considering that the developers of this game build the game based off of our feedback, or they state that they do, then he is doing exactly what CCP is wanting him to do. Hes stating his opinion, based on facts that he knows. If you disagree then you disagree, no need to loo down upon your fellow gamer with terms like "you people" and implying that he just isn't good enough doesn't help the game. Constructive criticism is more effective than trying to demean someone trying to help improve the game's. I think we can all agree there are some balancing issues throughout all content included in Dust. From the suits, to the servers, to the maps. |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:47:00 -
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I run logi/massdriver (and also rep/injector and hives) and get killed buy assault/Duvall and heavy guys all the time. Can't we nerf them so I get a more relaxed game.
Half my points I get from the logi stuff half from fighting. But almost al the deaths from the above so plz NERF them. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
27
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:03:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:I don't understand why logis get more high/low slots compared to the assault suits. This combined with more CPU/PG ALONE is a reason why most folks prefer Logi over Assault
If I have more equipment slots, I should have less high/low slots, thats only fair trade. And this is how Dust normally should work. Exchange one thing against another.
As full Proto Amarr Assault when I look at Cal Logis I could still puke. I have 3 High/3 Low, and Cal Logis have 5High 4 Low? Seriously CCP 3 slots more and on top of that 2 more equipment and as sacrifice they don't have a second weapon? That's just stupid.
As Logi you are a supporting class, which means you are always a little behind the frontline, therefore you don't need to have 700+ EHP. The job of a logi is supporting the team, means droping uplinks, using nanite injectors, using reppers to help heavies etc. Logis play the WP game, while Heavies defend and Assaults attack & defend at the same time So EHP should be spread like this: Heavy->Assault->Logi->Scout.
Know your job, know your role!
Lmfao How about we remove your equipment and reduce your low slots and cpu/pg.your assault why do you need those?The majority of assault users don't assault, they hide in corners to build up kds.Scouts, heavys, logis assault more than assaults.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4185
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:10:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:I don't understand why logis get more high/low slots compared to the assault suits. This combined with more CPU/PG ALONE is a reason why most folks prefer Logi over Assault
If I have more equipment slots, I should have less high/low slots, thats only fair trade. And this is how Dust normally should work. Exchange one thing against another.
As full Proto Amarr Assault when I look at Cal Logis I could still puke. I have 3 High/3 Low, and Cal Logis have 5High 4 Low? Seriously CCP 3 slots more and on top of that 2 more equipment and as sacrifice they don't have a second weapon? That's just stupid.
As Logi you are a supporting class, which means you are always a little behind the frontline, therefore you don't need to have 700+ EHP. The job of a logi is supporting the team, means droping uplinks, using nanite injectors, using reppers to help heavies etc. Logis play the WP game, while Heavies defend and Assaults attack & defend at the same time So EHP should be spread like this: Heavy->Assault->Logi->Scout.
Know your job, know your role!
And this is the reason why this game is barely fun anymore. Too many goddamned people telling each other what the hell they think they should be doing. We got the OP CaLogi suit that everyone flocked to but somehow the entire logi class gets put under a microscope because of butthurt assaults? I bet you still use standard level sidearms too... |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
324
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:32:00 -
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Im a logi and i get raped all the time. I think its because i play my role i dont do this no equipment proto gun crap. even on my pro logi suit i only use standard weapons so i can fit the best tools and protection. for helping the team of course! |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
104
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:05:00 -
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If the assaults don't do their job, how do you expect the logis to do theirs? Assaults do the killing so that logis can do the reviving/resupplying.
If an assault goes into battle and dies, while the other assaults sit behind cover and hide, how do you expect the logis to go and heal the downed assault |
maluble
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
23
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:35:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:[quote=Fire of Prometheus]I am a proto logi sniper.
Deal with it. Really I have nothing against the players who use it . Afcourse If you are competitive you will use everything at your disposal . My problem is with the system it self . It is just so poorly balanced that there is not even a single way to combat those accusations I made . You can simply get in a game and count the Logi suits that are AR fitted and see how the numbers go against the same AR + Assault suits :) Haha I thought you were one of those "snipers shouldn't be allowed on top of buildings" people, I am an overwatch so I need logi to carry uplinks, REs and nano hives. :) [
Good point but i sneak up on guys like you all the time in my Gallente scout suit, i can spot any sniper within a min or so of looking due to my suits racial bonus which is why its the best suit for sniping. My point is you cant defend yourself if someone sneaks up on you, good luck no scoping a scout that has a run speed over 10.00 with a shotgun, and its alot harder to spot people in a logi suit than it is in a gallent scout which was made for sniping. Unless you are on a high building or have a body guard u are a very easy target especially because any gallente scout sniping will prob spot you before you spot him. |
maluble
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
23
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:36:00 -
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maluble wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:[quote=Fire of Prometheus]I am a proto logi sniper.
Deal with it. Really I have nothing against the players who use it . Afcourse If you are competitive you will use everything at your disposal . My problem is with the system it self . It is just so poorly balanced that there is not even a single way to combat those accusations I made . You can simply get in a game and count the Logi suits that are AR fitted and see how the numbers go against the same AR + Assault suits :) Haha I thought you were one of those "snipers shouldn't be allowed on top of buildings" people, I am an overwatch so I need logi to carry uplinks, REs and nano hives. :) [ Good point but i sneak up on guys like you all the time in my Gallente scout suit, i can spot any sniper within a min or so of looking due to my suits racial bonus which is why its the best suit for sniping. My point is you cant defend yourself if someone sneaks up on you, good luck no scoping a scout that has a run speed over 10.00 with a shotgun, and its alot harder to spot people in a logi suit than it is in a gallent scout which was made for sniping. Unless you are on a high building or have a body guard u are a very easy target especially because any gallente scout sniping will prob spot you before you spot him.
you can remedy your lack of hives and uplinks by sniping with a buddy one has hives the other uplinks and you can tag team snipe, one breaks shield the other finishes the job. |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
104
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:42:00 -
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maluble wrote:maluble wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:[quote=Fire of Prometheus]I am a proto logi sniper.
Deal with it. Really I have nothing against the players who use it . Afcourse If you are competitive you will use everything at your disposal . My problem is with the system it self . It is just so poorly balanced that there is not even a single way to combat those accusations I made . You can simply get in a game and count the Logi suits that are AR fitted and see how the numbers go against the same AR + Assault suits :) Haha I thought you were one of those "snipers shouldn't be allowed on top of buildings" people, I am an overwatch so I need logi to carry uplinks, REs and nano hives. :) [ Good point but i sneak up on guys like you all the time in my Gallente scout suit, i can spot any sniper within a min or so of looking due to my suits racial bonus which is why its the best suit for sniping. My point is you cant defend yourself if someone sneaks up on you, good luck no scoping a scout that has a run speed over 10.00 with a shotgun, and its alot harder to spot people in a logi suit than it is in a gallent scout which was made for sniping. Unless you are on a high building or have a body guard u are a very easy target especially because any gallente scout sniping will prob spot you before you spot him. you can remedy your lack of hives and uplinks by sniping with a buddy one has hives the other uplinks and you can tag team snipe, one breaks shield the other finishes the job. Haha not looking for a remedy and yes if I'm pulling overwatch ill have at least one guy with me. Plus we're I snipe from It's nearly impossible to sneak up on me. |
maluble
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
23
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:44:00 -
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Why hasn't the lack of sidearm as a logi(omit ammar logi) been brought up, most of the time when i run my logi and im killing with it i almost always run out of ammo and dont have time to sit in a nanohive, a sidearm is a big part of being an assault. As an Assault i usually end up closing the distance on someone with my AR and finish them with my SMG. |
Drevenger
DUST University Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:47:00 -
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maluble wrote:Why hasn't the lack of sidearm as a logi(omit ammar logi) been brought up, most of the time when i run my logi and im killing with it i almost always run out of ammo and dont have time to sit in a nanohive, a sidearm is a big part of being an assault. As an Assault i usually end up closing the distance on someone with my AR and finish them with my SMG.
Voila, OP is a scrub, dont bother. |
maluble
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
23
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:50:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The only thing that bothers me about assault suits is the fact that I can't fit proto weapons and proto mods, while if a logi doesn't use their equipment slots that can fit way more proto mods and a proto weapon.
Is your dropsuit electronic and engineering at lvl 5, weapon optimazation at lvl 5? Light/sidearm weapon skill lvl 5? If not there lies your problem. |
Bethhy
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:58:00 -
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As a Minmatar assault I take affront to your assumptions..... there is so much you are missing to the actual gameplay... |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2013.08.15 09:06:00 -
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Wy ***** about the logi? I don't get revived buy the asult guys so they can save me isk.
We bring out droppships to put spawn points in good places, we make amo bubbles 4 you, we revive you, we heal you But when we kill you in a logi role the asults ***** about it, when I revive/heal etc them they are content.
Who is risking more to help others ?
I get killed buy dovolle and boundless al the ------ time I don't ***** I try to kill them and help my team kill them.
Start playing the game and don't be like a 5 year old.
Side note ( I don't understand wy the ammar logi has a side arm the rest is al good)
Soory 4 my English its not the best
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1278
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Posted - 2013.08.15 09:13:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Pretty much what the title says . LOGI suits are dominating the battlefield and no one is using them to actually support anything just run and gun Logi shotgunner Logi ARs Logi mass drivers (the most anoying ones) Logi sniper , Logi tank , Logi dual SMGs , Logi dual scram pistol . Logi everything . LOGI 514 Might aswell remove the assault suits altogheter and be done with it My point is : Does the LOGI suit have a role is it just an ASSAULT 2.0 . All suits proto with highlighted advantages / superiorities : Cal Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 4high 3 low Cal Logi - 350 CPU 78 PG = 5 high 4 low Gallente Assault - 300 CPU 60 PG = 3high 4 low Gallente Logi - 390 CPU 78 PG = 3 high 5 low Amarr Assault - 350 CPU 78 PG = 3high 3 low Amarr Logi - 390 CPU 72 PG = 3high 4 low ofcourse no need to point out the additional equipment slots and the passive armor rep on all logistics suits ... Basicly only the Amarr Assault has one advantage in one stat over the logistics version , but that quickly is diminished by the passive armor rep and passive for MORE armor rep efficacy and the obvious superiority in every other stat (CPU and slots) And if you add to all those stats Core skills 5 the margin becomes even greater ... Basicly with the Core skill bonuses you can have HALF a suit more with the LOGI Yea Logistics suits = Assault 2.0 and that's that for now So now what ? Thanks , Hasa I've always been an advocate for the inclusion of Mid slot on Logi suits which can be fitted with utility modules that better represent the role of a logistical trooper, at the cost of some of the high and low slots they currently have so they cannot abuse the extra slots over other suits but can use all sorts of modules to change up how their suit works in a supporting role.
E.G- Mid slots represent Hacking Modules< Equipment Buff Modules, EWAR modules, etc |
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