No, obviously I was talking about battle academy.

^ I can't get over this dude saying he ran around with a basic MD with no skills in MD and was 3 or 4 shoting proto suits with no flux.

I'll throw down 5 million ISK to see it happen.

I get killed by MD more than anything lately (it's a CQC thing) but I don't want t. Ym nerfed. Or anything.
Just learn to deal with it or create the neverending pillow fight interrupted by AR fire.

So I know the mass driver is fun and a great weapon that easy to usebut, ccp has been know to nurf ( so called balance) because I've over use. IV been murdered by it for a solid week now and I fore see this happening to the mass driver just like the flaylock, Just because over use . Given its a primary weapon I still see this happening. The tacAR was nurfed hard so don't think that it will never happen. The FOTM'S NEES TO STOP or risk a possible nurf.
I wanna hear some feedback so lets talk.

Sadly i wish the actual repair gun repaired that much i think its more around 30hp/s and the one that can lock on two targets is similar, the monster health repair comes from the proto nanohives pumping out 70hp/s

The heavy I was saying needed considerble less damage, its a defensive character not an offensive one.. its ment to take a hit. will heavies moving foward with medics aat their back be bad ass? hell yeah. will they be able to turn around and stop a shotgunner? or two AR's hitting the big slow moving head?

*EDIT slow lumbering players that are hard to kill was kinda the purpose of a tank class.

You wanna learn a trick to kill them. Either throw a grenade at the or run away in a straight line at first than start zigzag, you'll get hit but you won't die and you can also pick him off at the distance. I do this all the time. sometimes i back away from tje wall ajd wait until i count 6 shots. Than rush with a flux and kill

No, BC by that logic the duvolle needs a mega-nerf BC I get killed by that more than anything else.

It's depressing that I saw this thread coming months (almost a year) in advance.
Mass drivers have gotten nothing but buffs and fixes since I've played.

When I started- catastrophic hit detection, tiny clip, terrible sight, very loud, could see the grenade FROM THE MAP
Codex- hit detection improvement- still buggy though
Chromosome- clip size buff, sound effect change, no longer able to see the rounds on the map
Uprising 1.0- sight improvement, hit detection broken again
Uprising 1.2- hit detection completely fixed

I predicted that as soon as they're working right, people would start complaining.

Agree big time and kept making that point on the FP.

On the MD, I could see a small reduction of radius OR a tiny reduction of splash damage.
- I wouldnt want the blast radius on the standard ones to be much smaller than grenades.

Maybe a gal proto?

So I know the mass driver is fun and a great weapon that easy to usebut, ccp has been know to nurf ( so called balance) because I've over use. IV been murdered by it for a solid week now and I fore see this happening to the mass driver just like the flaylock, Just because over use . Given its a primary weapon I still see this happening. The tacAR was nurfed hard so don't think that it will never happen. The FOTM'S NEES TO STOP or risk a possible nurf.
I wanna hear some feedback so lets talk.

You do realize that mass drivers only account for about a tenth of the kills? ARs are typically about 90% of a match's kills. Warning to AR users, ARs are on the chopping block due to over use.

This is stupid. The OP (and countless others before and after him) has made a specious argument (look it up). CCP, for all their foolishness, are not complete idiots. It may appear that they nerf any weapon that is popular, but that's not the case. Association is not causality.

We are the sheep, not CCP. When we start getting killed a lot by things, we follow the herd and the weapon gets popular. It's popular, because it's OP. It gets nerfed, because it's OP. That doesn't mean that popular weapons get nerfed, it means that OP weapons get popular. The LR got the living crap nerfed out of it and it wasn't THAT popular, not like the TAR, contact nades, and flaylocks were. I don't recall routinely seeing entire squads, or even multiple squads, running them. I do recall faces melting from halfway across the battlefield though.

Any effect popularity might have is to bring quicker attention to the OP-ness of the weapon. People have been QQing about the FG almost as long as the flaylock, yet it didn't get nerfed with 1.3. Why? Because it does what it's supposed to. The AR? No weapons is more popular, and man do I want to gouge my own eyes out every time that buster guy shows up to ***** about that; and yet no nerf.

The flaylock is a sidearm, not meant to be a primary weapon. The dev blog said straight out they intended it to be a high-skill precision weapon, but instead it was lol 'splosion city, so they changed it to work the way they intended it to. Same thing with the TAR, it was supposed to be a precision med-long range weapon but every a-hole with a wal-mart $15 modded turbo controller turned those things into duvolles to the third power. Seriously, this just should not be that hard a concept to understand.

Note: I really hope a dev reads this and comments, because confirming that this is their approach would save a whole crapton of threads that will inevitably follow.


TL;DR: OP weapons are popular, that's why popular weapons get nerfed. Because they're OP, not because they're popular.

So you're saying the Mass Driver is OP. Ha okay, do you realize the Mass Driver was nerfed the most out of every gun? They made it so bad it barely wasn't usable. And yes ccp do nerf mostly based on popularity. The only reason the ar doesn't get nerf is because it's the "golden standard" of dust. It makes the money for dust. The assault rifle has the most bpos. It's the easiest gun to use. That's why it isn't nerfed and won't be nerfed. Your argument is almost a decent one but yet you still ignore the facts. I bet you that if everyone starts using the laser rifle again it will get cried about and ccp will notice a spike in its performance (kills) thus it will get nerfed. Look at how the flay lock got nerfed, I'm not by no means saying it wasn't OP. But the fact that they based the nerf on mainly how many kills only shows that when a weapon other than the assault rifle gets popular it will get nerfed. It's almost a given deal. So please don't try to impress us with your fancy words and a huge paragraph that is basically saying the same thing over and over. Heck I bet that even the new fotm became the smg, shot gun (after they fix the hit detection) it will get nerfed. Not because it's OP but because people are becoming deadly with it. So please don't write a other book about the same thing. You know I'm right, CCP has to fix other things. Add new content to the game. Etc. Some weapons need buff. The aiming system needs to be fixed which once it's fixed we are going to see even more nerf threads. So again keep this in mind. Thank you