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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.09.14 22:57:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Either put battle academy back up to over 20k warpoints where it needs to be or stop wasting your time on it and put out a decent dust patch, one that actually has new content, new game modes, NEW THINGS TO DO, instead putting out patches with pretty new interfaces, with nothing new to do. You need to stand back and try to see the pattern in testing and reasony why they are being methodically changed. These are not random or pre planned tweaks. They're trying to Identify specific values that will help retain a new player who will likely never post of the forum if they quit. oh how to destroy the game... it all makes sense...
Leaving it as is was doing too much damage actually... Let's just say extremely few number of folks ever got to experience a proto stomp. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1066
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Posted - 2013.09.15 09:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leaving it as is was doing too much damage actually... Let's just say extremely few number of folks ever got to experience a proto stomp.
And what did that have to do with the Battle Academy?
I'm guessing people didn't leave because they had to be in the BA for a while, but rather because they hated the game after the first few matches. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1169
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Either put battle academy back up to over 20k warpoints where it needs to be or stop wasting your time on it and put out a decent dust patch, one that actually has new content, new game modes, NEW THINGS TO DO, instead putting out patches with pretty new interfaces, with nothing new to do. You need to stand back and try to see the pattern in testing and reasony why they are being methodically changed. These are not random or pre planned tweaks. They're trying to Identify specific values that will help retain a new player who will likely never post of the forum if they quit. oh how to destroy the game... it all makes sense... Leaving it as is was doing too much damage actually... Let's just say extremely few number of folks ever got to experience a proto stomp.
And earlier proto stomping is the reason? Have you talked to those people? Tutorials help thank goodness they're coming, please IWS talk to people in the game listen to their issues... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:23:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:150,000 wp to graduate
quit bullshltin and set the bar higher so it actually feels like an acomplishment to graduate.
what is the acedemy? you get 5,000 wp a match on regular dust.... |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens
League of Infamy
274
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Posted - 2013.09.20 05:08:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:150,000 wp to graduate
quit bullshltin and set the bar higher so it actually feels like an acomplishment to graduate. what is the acedemy? you get 5,000 wp a match on regular dust....
Ummmm, either you are a beastly logi or you are confusing wp with something else, on average I get about 2000 wp a match, the a stage player seems to get around 1500 on average, noobs seem to get ~500 on average |
Axelius Argento
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:55:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:150,000 wp to graduate
quit bullshltin and set the bar higher so it actually feels like an acomplishment to graduate. what is the acedemy? you get 5,000 wp a match on regular dust.... Ummmm, either you are a beastly logi or you are confusing wp with something else, on average I get about 2000 wp a match, the a stage player seems to get around 1500 on average, noobs seem to get ~500 on average
I think he's confusing WP with the total SP you get after a match. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
158
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Posted - 2013.10.04 16:23:00 -
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No 150,000 WP = Pushed back. So he makes sense. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:47:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:All this experimentation is in service of building a better understanding of how new players actually behave, which we can then lean on in future to build a better overall new player experience. We're very aware of the need to review all aspects of the way we introduce DUST to new players; what we're doing here is just trying to learn what we can with the tools already in place.
why dont you ask a bunch of random dudes from every other kind of game (mostly shooters) to come and play your noob mode until they u find something that they can figure out and enjoy. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1245
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:24:00 -
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can we raise the starting sp for new characters to 1mil? i feel newberries need more room for error. also, if u could lock 500k of it for 1 week, that'd be very helpful for them. |
Rhi Hathor
duna corp
0
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:28:00 -
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Gotta say, theres too many 60 second wonders crashing vehicles while im wearing expensive kit. They dont even have a grasp of the controls, let alone suit fits, menu navigation etc...
A lot dont even realise that the 2 games are connected, no knowledge of lore either. ok so its not VITAL.
What is vital - A working tutorial that isnt a wall of text. My RL friends dont play eve, but tried dust due to my nagging. Within 5 minutes they had gotten fed up of the text walls, information overload and horrendous unhelpful interface. Yes, they retreated back to the likes of BF3, Cod and GTA. Simply because it was more fun, saved them a headache and a fall of a cliff of doom.
The game's huge and complex, a reason why a lot of us play. But the general console community are shunning Dust in droves, and they should. Compared to their fun regular games its hassle and beadwork. Not new player friendly from a console players POV at all.
This latest WP limit for the "beta test academy" in the name of a little statistical research is just going to shun even more people out of the door instead of getting them hooked. It's also a little out of touch too... PS3 not PC. Remember your demographic audience will generally be younger and yes, dumber. But you need that demographic audience to keep rolling onwards...
Not having a go, slight moan. Its too New player Unfriendly as it is, Will just worsen :( |
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Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
473
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:15:00 -
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Even with a starter fit, no changes, I can blast through 700 wp in about half a match of skirmish. Use some common sense, we want noobs to know what to do on the battlefield not just be able to point and shoot. The first million or two of earned SP should be exit optional from the BA. This is a solid base. If they wish to participate in noob friendly matches they can, and if they wish to experiment a bit they can without too big of problem when they get out.
One Universe...
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Rhi Hathor
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:04:00 -
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My Partner just made a character on dust before DT, had 2100WP in a single bout, first time on a ps3 pad too.
Still, even after the 'tutorial' she has no useful knowledge and is badgering me for advice.
Still a noob but on the frontline. A lil dangerous to others?
My Dic Is Bigger Than Your Dic
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CUTNSHOOT
Hell's Gate Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:23:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Has there been any thought to a 2-tiered battle academy? First tier is for people logging in for the first time and is analogous to what we have now. The second tier (post-graduate battle academy) is a "kiddy pool" option that would a gamemode type available to players under 2 mill SP (roughly--actual values could be tweaked), in addition to the existing standard modes. I think having people with 1,900,000 in the same match with people launching DUST for the first time trying to figure out how the controls work would be a disaster (which is why the battle academy should push people through rather quickly). Having a safe haven, to take someone from just graduating the academy to playing with the sharks and a reasonable enough SP pool to get some kills should help with new player retention. The 2nd tier academy shouldn't restrict players to only that gamemode though. You should be able to participate everywhere after graduating the first academy. Also, having the Armory test-range is critical for NPE, so they can experiment with weapons to pick a direction they will enjoy.
Once a player has 2,000,000+ SP, they should be able to compete reasonably enough.
There needs to be more options for new players, better matches for SP or WP caps, or even suit tier caps or something, this gets frustrating. |
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