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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:You are changing multiple variables at once but basing your decision to reduce graduation requirements on the older setup. I would have changed the academy mode and then checked the WP average for that.
I also vote for opening the opportunity to move out of the academy battles but leaving the option there for some time.
I also suggest giving faster SP accrual during some initial period. Yes, we are. For a number of reasons we're running tests on a weekly cadence right now, so we don't really have time to explore the entire possibility space variable-by-variable. Instead we're jumping between reasonably optimized implementations of various different plausible models of new player behavior, to try and establish as quickly as possible which model gets us in the right ballpark. We have a number of likely-looking mountains that we want to do a rough height-check on; once we've established some baselines for those, we'll be in a position to consider doing hill-climbing to find local maxima. Greyscale? What the hell are you doing on the Dust forums O_o?
Oh... uhm I think CPM Hans has a report on that in the council's chambers that was some time back.
As for everyone else, as one other poster said there used to not only been an academy but also there was no tutorial either. Eve Online didn't have one for the longest time either and the first ones were rather horrible took them more than 6 years to finally get it very decent enough for Eve Online over there.
As you can already guess CCP is watching these under a magnifying glass, its bad to use new players as guinea pigs but leaving things as they are is not going to improve things until you have the information on improving things.
There are some players that hate 'long tutorials' and the 20k battle academy was just that, a very very long tutorial tool.
I just wished the CPM was brought into this because the other folks there would have something to say about changes. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:37:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Your missing the point the battle achadme is a flawed concept as a whole. A offline pve style walkthrough is needed. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Every single other game to date has this. Even planetside has the VR room
That requires code deployment, BA is going to be a small part of the whole NPE eventually as it stands right now though they can tweak and tune the BA in preparation for the NPE change ups. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:47:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Your missing the point the battle achadme is a flawed concept as a whole. A offline pve style walkthrough is needed. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Every single other game to date has this. Even planetside has the VR room That requires code deployment, BA is going to be a small part of the whole NPE eventually as it stands right now though they can tweak and tune the BA in preparation for the NPE change ups. Do you know how long it will be until we get a tutorial?
CCP is/has begun action on this front details are forthcoming on their end mostly and they do agree about having a separate environment to quickly learn about the basics without requiring text books to read. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:29:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Either put battle academy back up to over 20k warpoints where it needs to be or stop wasting your time on it and put out a decent dust patch, one that actually has new content, new game modes, NEW THINGS TO DO, instead putting out patches with pretty new interfaces, with nothing new to do.
You need to stand back and try to see the pattern in testing and reasony why they are being methodically changed. These are not random or pre planned tweaks. They're trying to Identify specific values that will help retain a new player who will likely never post of the forum if they quit. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.09.14 22:57:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Either put battle academy back up to over 20k warpoints where it needs to be or stop wasting your time on it and put out a decent dust patch, one that actually has new content, new game modes, NEW THINGS TO DO, instead putting out patches with pretty new interfaces, with nothing new to do. You need to stand back and try to see the pattern in testing and reasony why they are being methodically changed. These are not random or pre planned tweaks. They're trying to Identify specific values that will help retain a new player who will likely never post of the forum if they quit. oh how to destroy the game... it all makes sense...
Leaving it as is was doing too much damage actually... Let's just say extremely few number of folks ever got to experience a proto stomp. |
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